Bought set of wheels and tires just for winter and purchased these TPMS sensors for them.. Next week tire shop is going to put new winter tires on the rims and I asked them to install the TPMS sensors I bought. They want $25 per tire just for programming! I know there is an option in the car menu to add different wheels etc. Do I need to have these programmed of can I just go thru that menu to add these TPMS to the car?
I wouldn't have bought preprogrammed TPMS sensors. I would find a tire service center that provides TPMS sensors that can clone the current ones on your car. That way, changing from to Winter tires and wheels will not require reprogramming after each change. If you have access to Toyota Techstream or a capable scanner, you can recover the serial numbers of the TPMS sensors that are currently on your car.
No, but cloning the TPMS transmittersto match the current ones on the car is a no brainer. Changing tires back and again after each season will not require reprogramming with each tire swap.
Confusion with snows stored in the garage. Apparently no biggie with the Gen 5. There's a whole section in the manual.
No confusion. The car's system just detects a signal and Porsche pressure of each tire. It only triggers a fault when the sensor turns on a low pressure.
But why bother doing all that on a gen5? A gen5 can store two sets of sensors and easily switch between them using the steering wheel buttons and gauge cluster. And you don't need any scan tool for programming them; the car can do that on its own. Maybe don't give advice to an owner of a gen5 when you don't own one and don't know the differences between it and the previous generations.
Nope. You can do any "programming" yourself. You basically just tell the car you've got a new set of sensors and then drive around for awhile. The car wants speeds above 40mph and it could take between 10-30 minutes. So take a sightseeing trip or something. I think it took my car about 25 minutes to recognize the brand new sensors and now it takes about 15 minutes of driving to swap between stored sets. I think it takes about the same amount of time for the car to recognize new wheel locations after a tire rotation. I will say that the descriptions in the menu system between adding a new set of sensors and just swapping existing sets is not as clear as it could be. Just take your time and maybe consult the manual for a more thorough explanation. I know I always have to sit there for a bit every swap and read all the different options to be sure I'm selecting the right one. I always second guess myself a couple times, but I eventually figure it out and choose the right one.
Already done. Both here and other threads on the same topic. I should probably cut and paste at this point.
Good to know. Owning a Gen 5, like the OP obviously don't make everyone who does an expert on that vehicle. I consider the TPMS nothing more than excessive government regulation to coddle those who do not take care of their cars. Instead of replacing dead battery TPMS transmitters at the cost if $200-$500, I just disabled the system and frequency check the air in my tires. Eliminating aĺ the additional electronic crap would make cars more reliable and easier to repair as they were 10-15 years ago.
Hammersmith said you could use the menu, but afaik, this depends on whether they're cloning old-style or new-style sensors. I don't know how to determine which those are - but I tend to get the impression that the majority of third-party sensors are old-style. The car will only let you add new-style sensors through the menu. If they're going to charge you for programming, and they're honest, then that will be a necessary procedure for these being old-style sensors. Hopefully they were more than $25 cheaper than new-style.
Thank you for a more detailed explanation. We are all here to share knowledge and to learn. Those Sorghum $40 a set TPMS transmitters sold on Amazon and eBay have to be of Chinesium or other low quality Asian manufacture. On that account, I will still get cloned TPMS transmitters. They will still cost only a fraction of the new style ones only guaranteed to be programed by the car if purchased from a Toyota dealer. I would also compare the cost of his current TPMS transmitters plus the $25 programming with the tire dealer's cloned transmitters. The OP might not be saving much. Then, the tire store might not ne able to add the serial numbers of the new transmitters to the car's TPMS computer. Then, to clone the transmitters, they may have to crack the beads of the current tires to read their serial numbers to clone them. The tire store will not warranty the owner supplied transmitters. Overall, it might be worth the extra cost to have everything done and guaranteed by the tire store. Discount Tire warranties their TPMS transmitters including installation for 6 years or 72,000 miles.
Remember the "Ford Exploder" as the origin story of TPMS? That being said, it's saved me a couple times from a not-so-slow leak. I put in $45 (a set!) sensors from Amazon in my MINI (BMW) and they worked great. Only had a year on them or so before I traded the car in though. I'll say again that Toyota still seems needlessly complex.
TPMS would have been useless to tell me when I had a blowout on the right rear tire a couple of weeks ago. The flap flap noise was obvious.
Get rid of the nanny state mandated TPMS requirements and go back to full size spares and a full set of tire changing tools.
That's why I carry both the OEM donut and a full size spare. If I was the OP, I would carry one of the unmount tires as a full size spare.
A spare does nothing for those that don't check the tire pressure, and crash during the resulting blow out. That's why we got the TPMS requirement. We can say it was their fault, but they aren't driving on roads alone.
