Featured Patents complicate all driver assist tech at 7 companies

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  1. mikefocke

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    Perrone Robotics Inc. and Perrone Robotics Innovations have filed lawsuits against Tesla, Toyota, Volkswagen, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda and Nissan, alleging infringement of its patented automated vehicle and robotics technologies.
     
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    should be a fun watch, although it will probably take years to play out. like toyotas ecvt, they probably just want licensing royalties.
     
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    I look forward to the day that people who own patents get legal rights because they actually fully developed and marketed and carry the product liability... So sick of these sleezy trolls who acquire or hold patents that they never invest in or develop other than hiring an attorney to poach revenue from the companies who do all the actual investing and risk taking. Patent reform is essential to a truly free market economy, which we've never had.
     
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    happens a lot with big pharma
     
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    Yeah that's another corrupt racket that needs the legs kicked out from under them.
     
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    You are talking to a first named patent holder through a company I worked for. Developed a product using a unique design over at least a dozen years and marketed it and sold it. Defended it when it was initially denied and also responded to others making claims against it.
     
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    • mrs b got the rsv shot the other day. insurance paid $350., i almost fell over
     
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    I'm sure you'll agree then that the amount of work you put into it should be proportionate to the money you got out of it. I'm was referencing jerks who patented stuff like "a system to make payments online" back in the early 90's when internet first got started coming out of nowhere decades later arguing in court that they want a licensing fee for every payment made online even though their patent was never developed or deployed. Those folks are put evil!
     
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    So true!

    I don't know if we'll ever have patent reform or a truly free economy.

    This is a big part of the reason that Next Gen TV (ATSC 3.0 standard) is such a mess. Many TV companies now refuse to put ATSC 3.0 tuners in their TVs because they've been sued over patent rights.

    I also found several custom PC companies get sued for putting their motherboards in fish tanks and filling them with mineral oil. The idea is great for high end gamers that want extreme cooling, but someone out there holds the patent to putting a PC in a fish tank and is going around suing everyone who tries to build and sell PCs in fish tanks instead of actually building PCs in fish tanks to sell.

    There's also a lot of really tough laws around copyrights. Like, when is it considered a copyright? Speaking of PCs, if you were to build an +30-year-old PC from scratch you could copy any of the hardware components since the patents have expired. But you won't be able to legally copy over a Bios or operating system because those are copyrighted, which last for decades and then can be renewed.
     
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    Yep... Fair use under copyright law is rarely defended... And all the theives stealing all of the ad revenue from popular youtube videos via the automated reporting system simply because more than a few seconds of a song or their logo appears in the video. We're talking true scum of the earth sleazeballs profiting off other people's work, which was the whole reason we created patent and copyright law in the first place.
     
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    i have mixed feelings. i think pharma should get a short window, but no one should have the right to mickey mouse except disney
     
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    We all agreed Mickey Mouse would get 50 years... Then when their time was up they wanted more and got it... Main issue here is when use turns into abuse and we don't have a decent way to address that yet.

    And its even worse in Japan where there's no fair use whatsoever and things get super petty with them.
     
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