Pedal comander vs Pedal monster

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Accessories and Modifications' started by Jay weeks, Oct 31, 2025.

  1. Brian1954

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    You said that you have dyno tests to prove that the box works. In post #71, I asked for you to upload those tests so that everyone can see the data. So, I ask again, please upload the data so it can be reviewed.

    Can you please post the links to these "independent studies, tests, and peer reviewed videos online" so that anyone (like me) who is interested can read or view them?
     
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    Your job is to find them through an easy Google/Youtube search (since you disagree with facts), do a review based on their review with your own findings once you purchase the product to test and disprove it's efficacy in an independent study. That's how the Scientific method works. No one owes you anything, period..you are making the claim it doesn't do anything. I have proven otherwise and there's no point posting my dynojet graphs here because you will cry and claim they are false. I am happy with the results, happy with the product, and don't care what you think you know about what you don't know. :ROFLMAO:
     
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    This is almost as hilarious as the tire valve stem cap thread.
     
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    I thought that since you already know these test results exist and are familiar with them, it would be very easy for you to provide the appropriate links. I guess I was thinking wrong since you will not provide the links. Can you at least provide the search words that I should use to find the links? I will do a Google search with the words that you provide.

    You are correct, no one owes me anything.
    Please tell me the post numbers where I said the intermediate box does not do anything. I repeatedly wrote that the only thing the box does is change the curve of the 0 to 100% pedal travel. In one post, I said it changes that curve very well and could be customized to the user's liking using the provided app. I also wrote that with an aggressive curve, the pedal feels more responsive, and the car is more fun to drive. What I have also said repeatedly is that the box can not do anything different than what your right foot is capable of doing on the stock pedal. You just needed to push the pedal more to get the same results (power from the car).
    I will NOT claim that the dynojet graphs you post are false. What do you have to lose by uploading the graphs. If you do not provide the graphs, people reading this thread will assume that you are just blowing a lot of hot air. Prove them wrong by providing the graphs.
     
    #84 Brian1954, Dec 28, 2025 at 5:11 PM
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    They will assume you are, since you have never demonstrated your rebuttle and scientific testing based evidence that it doesn't.
     
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    I am not the person who claims to have dyno graphs, you are. So, how can anyone claim that I am blowing hot air about having dyno graphs??? I am confused.

    Are you going to provide the words that I should use to do a Google search like I requested in my last post?
     
    #86 Brian1954, Dec 28, 2025 at 6:06 PM
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    You're saying throttle controllers don't work. Show me from your evidence they don't.
     
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    Read my post #84 for my full response.

    They work by charging the pedal position curve from 0 to 100% pedal position. If you choose an aggressive (steeper) curve, the pedal will feel more responsive. How many times do i need to write that?
     
    #88 Brian1954, Dec 28, 2025 at 9:46 PM
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    Show me your peer reviewed study.
     
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    So much pettiness over a device that rescales a voltage signal...........Iron Man..quit acting like a itch and just provide links to all the data that you're telling everyone about. How tough is that? You're here touting this as one of the greatest things ever made, so help people believe it. Does a signal re-scaler work? Sure, it's not difficult to rescale a voltage signal to make a pedal position at 25% show the voltage originally intended for 100%. It's no different than if your original throttle body used a 0-10 volt signal, and then you replace it with one that uses a 0-3 volt signal. Being that you're the one starting the conversation, you should provide more data than your "butt-meter".

    I even said you could send me one for a Gen 2 and I would third party time trial it and post the results. Nothing but crickets.
     
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    I could respond to this, but you would not like my reply. This would lead the thread down into a deep dark hole. I have seen this happen on a lot of threads in this forum. I do not want that to happen to this thread.

    I would like to steer this thread into a more positive direction. I think we need to start with both of us agreeing on certain concepts of how the Prius works. I propose that I present a statement or a concept, and then you reply that you agree with what I wrote, or disagree with what I wrote. If you disagree, please say why you disagree with what I wrote and tell me how you think it works. Then we can constructively discuss that point further.

    I know that your time is valuable and you may not want to go through with this discussion that I am proposing. That is fine, I understand if you want to ghost this thread at any time. I am retired and I have free time to devote to this discussion.

    In your previous posts, you talk about science and scientific thinking. I have based my entire education and profession/occupation on science. So, I think that this a good starting point for this discussion. I will number my statements and you can respond and say if you agree or disagree. So, I begin with:

    1. I believe in science, testing, and the data received from the test.

    Please quote #1 in your reply, and say if you agree or disagree with that statement.