Range on EV Mode

congrats!
there is no standard range. if you drive it exactly the same as the era test, you might get 20 miles.
but no one can do that, because it is on a dynamometer.
range depends on a variety of factors including acceleration, speed, stop and go's, topography, climate, hvac settings, tires and etc.
I would contact jack at nexcell for his opinion

 

I believe the original gen1 PHEV was only specs for 6-11 miles on the original Toyota pack. Like all PHEV; it varies based on driving conditions and drivers inputs.

 

I hope you realize that the 80 mpg doesn't include the electricity your inputing and using. If you don't frame that into your equation, that's just bad math and bad science. Edmunds TCO (total cost of ownership) includes ALL cost, including maintenance, insurance, depreciation; over a 5 year period using average miles traveled. That number is totaled then divided by miles driven to get the TCO and cost per mile. Since they use the same methodology for all cars they test; you can infer an apples to apples comparison.

While 80 mpg is a great "sound bite", the reality is that your closer to 45 mpg - if you didn't plug-in everyday. FWIW; my Prime is showing 120 mpg, since I'm mostly EV around town - but I do add electricity consumption into my math; for real world cost of operations comparison.

 

I'm paying nearly double that for my KwH and have calculated that $0.38 KwH is the breakeven point for my commute and driving style; between gasoline @ $4/gal vs electrons.

YMMV

 

there's a thread here somewhere about jacks phev battery. I think it is supposed to double the oem range.
the engine shouldn't come on until you have depleted the wall charge (except for things like hvac) unless jacks system works differently than oem.

 

I'm paying 40 cents per kWh

 

how many miles on her? you need to look into the egr issue.

 

wow! that's a lot of miles in 11 years

 

Nope, it was 12 miles. That "6" was stirred in discussion because it was the mile-mark in the EPA test where there was a hard acceleration to highway speed, triggering the engine to run briefly.

 

Nope, that is utter nonsense. EPA testing is a balance of driving conditions. It's pretty easy to exceed range rating when driving in ideal conditions. I did it countless times with my Prius Prime... exceeding 30 miles from its battery only rated for 25. For example:

 

The key here is "ideal conditions" and we don't control the weather or terrain. My avg mile/KwH has shown 20miles/KwH on occasions coming back from South Lake Tahoe; that doesn't make it true. That makes it an outlier that should be ignored. That's great your averaging 5+mile/Kwh; What's your average during the winter months????? A running average over a year would be a more honest approach.

 

When it comes to estimates, there is no "honest" value since the measurement is standardized... hence rating. That why we report real-world instead, knowing conditions will vary on a regular basis.

Heck, even your question of "winter" is problematic. My winter experience in Minnesota will be profoundly different from someone elsewhere north, like the East Coast. Here's a real-world example for me:

 

You can still provide an average year-long "miles/Kwh" rather than take stipends to try to prove your point. I would bet your overall annual average would be closer to the OEM 25 miles of EV range.

That's why OEM's do rigorous testing; so they don't get sued for exaggerated claims. They need to meet a minimum standard, doesn't matter if the car is in New York or Arizona. How would it be problematic when you just stated that everything is standardized???? I noticed you didn't provide the consumption chart, but did notice your average mpg was 69.1mpg and 98.4mpg vs your other screen shot of 199.9 mpg; so obviously your miles/KwH consumption was much lower.

Peace....

 

epa test started the engine at 6 miles:
The EPA says the Prius Plug-In has an electric range of 11 miles, though the small print notes that the car can only do 6 continuous miles electrically on the agency’s city test cycle.