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The Iranians are defending Iran against the attack by our sociopath in Chief. Our House of Representatives has rejected the War Powers authorization:

In early June 2026, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a bipartisan war powers resolution to halt unauthorized military action against Iran. The measure, which directs President Donald Trump to remove U.S. Armed Forces from the conflict, now awaits action in the Senate.
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Bob Wilson

 

We both receive the same information...so let's not get into the weeds playing word games.

 

Then let's take a longer view.

The Shah was a US ally and was very hard on retrograde muslim elements in Iran. He also pushed Iran into the wider, more international and functional world in which women drove and went to university. Like Sadat and Mubarak in Egypt, he suppressed the sort of people who burn people alive for going to the theater and behead children for flying kites.

Carter undermined that modernization and helped to unleash a mutation of shia that would inflict barbarity on modern iranians, destabilize and impoverish another jewel in the region, and make the US a target as the leader of the modernity it opposed.

What you call a dictatorial monarchy was Iran's constitutional government from which Moseddegh usurped authority and set Iran on a Venezuela like path. Complaining that the UK didn't let that catastrophe play out to its end and about US "national sins" is a pretty specific niche analysis.

 

Iran was close to then Communist Russia so there were good rationalisms for a repressive state police. I am old enough to remember our own Hoover-McCarthy abuses.

Bob Wilson

 

Where do you get your history lessons. Is this because 47 just said “he doesn’t want to be like Jimmy Carter.” he should wish he could be like Jimmy Carter.
“Jimmy Carter and Iran: Crisis, Legacy, and Modern Parallels
Jimmy Carter’s presidency was deeply shaped by his relationship with Iran, which shifted from alliance to crisis in just a few years. In 1977, Carter visited Tehran and called Iran “an island of stability,” maintaining close ties with the Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi White House Historical Association. However, rising anti-Shah protests and the Shah’s pro-Western stance alienated many Iranians, especially after Carter allowed the exiled Shah to receive medical treatment in the U.S. in October 1979 White House Historical Association.

The turning point came on November 4, 1979, when Iranian students, backed by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, stormed the U.S. embassy in Tehran and seized 66 Americans Wikipedia. The hostages were held for 444 days, until January 20, 1981, when they were released after the Algiers Accords and Reagan’s inauguration Wikipedia. The crisis became a symbol of Carter’s perceived weakness, compounded by economic troubles like inflation and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan Bill of Rights Institute.

Carter’s handling of the crisis drew criticism both domestically and abroad. In Iran, state media later branded him the “architect of economic sanctions” after the revolution, blaming him for the breakdown of relations The Times of Israel. Internationally, the hostage crisis overshadowed his foreign policy and contributed to his defeat in the 1980 election”

 

Do you imagine other people come to learn about history through which they lived from a single source? If you filter your position about iranian history through your feelings about 47, maybe your approach should be re-examined.

No one should wish that.

While Carter eventually allowed a mortally ill ally to seek medical treatment in the US, he dithered and delayed first. He also communicated with Khomeini before facilitation Khomeini's return from exile in Paris.

Carter wasn't merely perceived as weak. He was quiescent in the face of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, abrogated the US defense treaty with Taiwan, terminated military aid to our ally in Nicaragua then provided aid to communists there, and gave only modest aid to salvadoran anti-communists in their civil war. After leaving office, he certified as legitimate an election of Chavez in Venezuela despite well documented corruption leading up to the election and Chavez offering unlikely results.

Carter was not the sole cause of the terrible things that transpired during his term; he did play a part.

 

Accurate but you also don’t kick a hornets nest unless you plan on either running really fast or spraying it down getting stung.

your right, carters manipulation and isolationist non-involvement policy was less bad than the Iran contra scandal

I’m sure the Reagan loyalists in the Carter regime who were told to draw that whole thing out alongside the Iranians being told to sandbag until Reagan could take over had absolutely nothing to do with your narrative which has been at least partially debunked and broken down with different interpretations in the past.

in the early 50’s if British petroleum would have just paid its taxes to the Iranians we likely wouldn’t have created histories greatest evil.

 

I lived it, but there was no internet, only a full time job at a major university with custody of a four year old after a divorce.
Everyone should want to be like Jimmy Carter the world would be so much better.
Interesting it isn’t me who needs to filter 47. I merely mentioned his comment about Carter as a possible source of posting misinformation about him. It’s you who needs to filter 47.

This is a doozy of a statement you just posted. “After leaving office, he certified as legitimate an election of Chavez in Venezuela despite well documented corruption leading up to the election and Chavez offering unlikely results.” I don’t know if you actually read what you wrote or it was a statement you got from somewhere. .

 

Wow, and what are your sources?

The constitutional monarchy of Iran effectively ended with the Pahlavi led coups. A new constitional monarcy was hoped for at a point, but remnants of the old constitution were simply allowed to continue. The good they did for the people came through a police state.

They didn't abolish the parliament (though they wanted to), and elections for that continued. Which is how the people selected the parliament that lead to Moseddegh, though the Shah had final say in Prime Minister. Then parliament voted to nationalize BP. No usurping, just the will of the people. Perhaps that would have lead to a Venezuela situation. We, though, didn't really have a say in that. "Death to the UK" would be the chant if we had kept out of it.

History of Iran - Wikipedia

 

But not worse than congressional abandonment of the Contras.

You imagine that 47 commenting that he doesn't want to be like Carter is the source for a position of Moseddegh and the Shah?

First you offer incorrect speculation about 47 as a source of information, then assert that I've posted misinformation. Yet, none of your wikipaedia material contradicts the observation of the role people like Sadat and Pahlavi had in repressing elements that would later prove to be a problem.

 

Not wikipedia.

Yes. It could be quite a rough one too, as in Egypt and Pakistan.

That last bit isn't inconsequential. Continuing after dismissal is the usurpation.

That was the Venezuelan pattern.

As it turns out, we did and do.

 

How are super secret sources any better?

Don't like what Wikipedia says, they provide the sources for you to see why they say it. Few do that.

And he was reinstated. This wasn't movement of one man in Mosaddegh, it was the controlling block of the parliament and other groups.

BP should have just paid their taxes. They even refused an audit.

Was that the pattern in Canada, Mexico, or Saudi Arabia?
A dozen countries had some degree of nationalization of their oil industry. How many ended up like Venezuela?

 

Speculation is always open to being incorrect, but with 47 on the “airwaves” around the clock, it’s decent speculation that he is a source.
When you try to slam Carter after he left office for “certifying” votes in Venezuela your motive seems clear enough. I didn’t realize citizen Carter could certify votes in Venezuela. Even as President he couldn’t do that. Sounds like he was doing something wrong by your words, but he wasn’t.

 

Fun fact, they already have nukes. Probably a decade ago. They just didn't have a delivery vehicle but now they have that also, and it's hypersonic and very hard to shoot down. Do you really think a backwards country like Pakistan could have nukes and a country that is ranked 4th among countries worldwide in IQ and graduates more engineers annually than England France and Germany combined would not have nukes? Nukes are well established tech, not hard to acquire, the only way it's deterred is through control of the enriched Uranium. The "keep them from getting nukes" is just a mantra kept alive by the Rothchilds media as an excuse to bomb them. Plus unlike a lot of countries they acquired tunnel boring machines and the entire country has miles of tunnels and all you can do is bomb the multiple entrances which can be quickly cleared. All the enriched uranium and nukes and missiles are deep underground. Enriched uranium can be tracked by satellite but not if it's underground.
Another fun fact, Israel is a tiny country, it could be obliterated with just 2 or 3 nukes, Iran you would need 50, and the fallout would hit Israel and several other surrounding nations, and they would still have all the underground stuff. All Israel has left is the Sampson Option, where if they get nuked they nuke everyone else around them, basically suicide where they take others with them.

 

Weird things going on. Someone (Blackrock?) is buying up the aftermarket auto parts companies and shutting them down. Cardone (family owned), a huge aftermarket supplier was bought off, employees laid off and out of business, several other similar companies the same. Also recently, within a few months, a dozen large salvage yards burned to the ground. Like all the large chicken farms burned that caused the egg shortage. Fun fact eggs interfere with the stuff in the vaccines. They don't want us having or repairing conventional cars, only one's that can be remotely controlled through the internet. They really don't even want us having personal cars at all. They want us packed in 15 minute cities, "you will own nothing and be happy".

Also the price of ram has more than doubled overnight, and there are almost as many bots on the internet as people. Fakebook is especially bad there's a ton of fake ads on marketplace and a ton of fake accounts with AI generated photos and videos of people.

 

you can say that again!

 

I've long been aware that the standard flu vaccine production method using eggs is less than ideal, as the eggs do alter the vaccine somewhat from the original design. So they continue to try to create better production methods, so far without success at the needed scale.

But this is the first time I've heard the claim of widespread chicken farm fires. Were the outbreaks of bird flue, requiring the culling of entire flocks, 'fake news'?

 

You carefully avoid mentioning oil, which was the major driver of the coup. Foreign Big Oil.

And the Shah's dictatorial monarchy was hard on a lot more groups than you portray.

 

Definitely not! Nano banana showed me a picture:



(My first nano banana picture! I used GIMP to downscale and jpeg-compress it. Now I'm thinking I could probably have just asked for it smaller and in jpeg form, and maybe ended up with less-noticeable jpeg artifacts than the ones GIMP produced.)

(Edit: nope, I asked, and it told me it can't do that.)