Featured Americans eye banned Chinese EVs

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  1. Isaac Zachary

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    Amid rising fuel and car prices in the USA, some are longing for those banned Chinese EVs.


    Just a thought, if I were to buy a new Corolla, the cheapest I found within a few hundred miles from here is just over $23,000 which would be over $300 a month including a trade-in and about that same amount for the insurance just for the wife and me, plus at least $150 per month in fuel costs. Add in saving for tires and doing normal maintenance and suddenly I'm not that far from $1,000 per month. Or I can take off about $100 per month if I get a used one.
     
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    It would seem people that want to buy an imported car of any kind - never contemplate whether there is service for that vehicle or not.
     
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    You got that right. I drove 70 miles in the Nissan Leaf (made it with barely any charge left) to the closest Nissan dealership/service center to have a key made to be told that they couldn't do that because they didn't work on EVs at that service center.

    Chinese, non-chinese: it doesn't matter. If it's an EV, or pretty much any modern car, it's pretty much non-repairable unless you do it yourself. Even budget cars like Ford Escapes: the transmission blows up on those at around 70,000 miles and any shop is going to want $9,000 to fix it. Car repairability is a joke anymore.
     
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    I bought two cars from manufactures with 100,000-mile engine and powertrain warranties with all other components warranted for 5 years and 60,000.

    The A/C went out on one at 45,000 miles the condenser failed taking out the A/C compressor with it - covered under warranty - charge to me for leak testing and dye/ new condenser/compressor/complete recharge/new filter /new tire damaged when technician ran over a sharp object and 25 hours labor= $0.

    Both vehicles in a combined 12 years and over 100,000 miles required 1 other repair (a downstream 02 senser I replaced myself). Of course normal maintenance was provided on each vehicle.

    While buying cars is a bit of a crap shoot researching before buying to find reliable cars with great warranties can give peace of mind, minimize repair costs/inconveniences, give reliable transportation.

    Many modern cars are easy to repair and made to give great service - many times exceeding 100,000's of miles of mostly trouble-free usage.

    When the downstream oxygen senser failed - the car check engine light came on and I took it to Auto Zone to read the code - they were glad to do it- read the code gave me a printout telling me the code what it meant and the component that needed to be replaced. I replaced the senser the code reset and no problems since. The sophisticated diagnostic in modern cars is an excellent assistant to getting you back on the road.
     
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    meh.

    This week people are butt-sore about import restrictions on ChiComm cars.
    Next week the same "news" companies will be shocked that Toyota is illegally collecting private data on their victi....er(*) I mean customers.

    You LITERALLY can't make this stuff up..... :ROFLMAO:
     
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    Those must have been new cars. I've never bought a new car and have never had a car with a warranty other than a good-for-nothing dealer add-on that didn't cover the issue I had with the car.

    According to Dave Ramsey I shouldn't be looking at any car more than $5,000 in price. I doubt I'd be able to get a car with a warranty for that price.
     
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    I was around 45 when I bought my first new car.

    I like Dave Ramsey and his advice, find it practical, informative and potentially life changing for those who take it to heart and practice the principles.
     
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    When I was 45 I was just finally getting out of the sub $1,000 cars I used to drive and into the used Avalon I have now. I do think I splurged a bit against Ramsey's advice and spent a whole whopping $15,000 on the thing. I kind of regret that decision, especially now that I'm contemplating a potentially $3,000 HV battery replacement while the $600 VW I had bought 15 years ago and sold after driving it for 7 years was still running for its current owner last I talked to him earlier this year.
     
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    This sounds like a huge amount of exaggerated BS... Each vehicle has a history of reliability and some are way more reliable than others, which is the very reason Japanese automakers destroyed Detroit in the last decades of the 1900's. As for BYD in China the reports are so good about long term reliability and quality of design that every market BYD enters other Automakers get trounced by them. For example BYD started selling in Australia 5 years ago and look at how they're doing:

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    Agreed... If you aren't a millionaire, the only fiscal responsible choice is buying used. If you don't take Dave's advice, consider yourself enslaved to a financial system that will never let you get ahead and you will always be in debt.
     
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    Sounds like you're describing your own delusions and not the fact that BYD is doing superior work and the fact they take over every market that lets them in. Truth is all you weirdos blame the media for a reality that's fast approaching and the fact is BYD is building better, more reliable cars than anyone else and you can't pretend "fake news" is the reason people want a good price on the most reliable car available.
     
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    I pretended no such thing.
    HOWEVER...
    If we 'pretend' that the CCP does not engage in activities like wholesale industrial espionage and patent theft, and if we "pretend" that they also do not look the other way when it comes to child labour and ethnic cleansing then....yeah.
    I get it.

    This isn't something that political hactivists can turn into a red-state blue-state argument.
    BYD's first mass produced BEV goes back to something like before the Obama administration - so they're not exactly the new kids on the block.
    Speaking of delusional, do you have one scintilla of peer-reviewed (mob-sourced) data to support your theory that a sub-subcompact "prancing rodent" car might possibly meet NHTSA or IIHS crash standards or other federal motor vehicle safety standards???

    Don't get me wrong.
    I LOATHE F^%$G labour unions with the intensity of a thousand stars, and I'd be utterly delighted if we ABOLISHED the alphabet soup of federal agencies that have their boots of the neck of American industrial efforts.
    Letting some "Leaping Lizzard" car that makes a Kei truck look like a coal-rolling RAM 4x4 might just be a good trade-off :)
    Just remember....
    You can't have it both ways, pal.
    I've seen more than one person casting stones at the domestics for systems like ON* and whatever Toyota uses to victimize their customers with - and I don't care about them - OR BYD......but you cannot pretend that the Chicomms do not gather data with their cars.
    No, BYD is not state-owned.
    The "front" is that it is a publicly traded, multinational corporation.
    Currently one of the few such entities that "some people" do not seem to have a complaint about strangely enough..... ;)
    It must be their high wages, lavish benefits, and devoted adherence to DEI. :ROFLMAO:
    However,
    COMMA!!!!
    The company operates with what the Googles call "deep political integration, heavy state subsidies, and extensive ties to the Chinese Communist Party."
     
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    Perhaps a bit exaggerated. But it is true I made an appointment for a new key at Nissan and drove all that way to be refused service with the excuse it was an EV. And I have known 5 people who had a Ford Escape that the transmission failed between 60,000 and 100,000 miles and were give quotes anywhere between $5,000 and $9,000 to have their car repaired.

    Still, my VW Golf felt immortal, and my Avalon has done well for the time I've driven it. I am afraid of what it will cost to have the HV battery replaced since it's showing signs that it may fail soon. But you're right, I really shouldn't complain.

    I can't imagine a car company like BYD coming to a country and selling cars with no way for car owners to have their cars repaired. That would be a bad business practice if it were true.
     
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    I've never needed to make a warranty claim on any car. I've also never owned anything made by GM. Coincidence?
     
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    we've had several toyota warranty claims, most recent a leaky windshield on a new Camry, flooded the ceiling and center console.
    I'm not defending gm
     
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    That's because you have a problem with not letting car people confuse you and convince you to buy something you don't need.
     
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    They have their faults.
    My last several vehicles have been GMCs, including my current '23 Sierra and '20 Terrain which are in daily service.
    OK....the Terrain has been faultless, SO FAR.....
    Zero dealer re-visits in 74 months, and 100,000 miles and zero repair costs, but I'm going to have to so some top-end cleaning thanks to direct injection and let's face it.....
    A turbo is a replaceable wear item.

    My '23 has had to have two services (fuel injector fault and window switch) which only cost me a little inconvenience.
    I do not have high hopes for its longevity since the Climate Industrial Complex is forcing them to use eensy-weensie little turbocharged motors with direct ignition - buuuuut it was compromise purchase.
    I tried to buy a Toyota but once again the SE Toyota group prevented me from breaking my 1989 pledge to never EVER buy one again.

    A made an 'all costs' spreadsheet comparing a new 2023 GMC Sierra Pro with a 2023 Tesla and over a 5 year run the GMC cost less money - presuming a notional zero repair cost for the Tesla and a $2000 repair budget for the GMC. I also used a $3 a gallon average gas price.
    Gas was about the same in 2023 locally as it is now - (it's $3.349 today) although some drive-by statistician will point out (accurately) that fuel is more expensive nationally on average 'now' than it was "then" without taking into account that (a) The difference between low-cost and high-cost states is greater now than then and (II) $3.349 in 2023 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $3.65 today. ;)
    Anyway....the Tesla STOMPED all heck out of the GMC for the first 2-3 years because of the lower operating costs and presumed greater reliability but after 5 years the residual street value wasn't even clooooose and even with my ability to charge for free at work the costs started evening out the cost-per-mile deltas.
    All of that, of course, was a thought experiment involving ONLY a GMC Sierra and a Tesla.
    My spouse is a HARD NO on a compact car which would eliminate most of Toyota's non-trucks under $40k and with a tow capacity as useful as I require - which a Tesla DOES have.

    My CFO gets the 'next pick' which will be......whatever she wants.
    She's eyeing Pathfinders - which works for me.
    They have a 6000# factory tow package available on all but their cheapest model.

    Happy spouse.
    Happy House.
     
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    No defense for GM here either. We couldn't get them to straighten out our Chevy Volt shifter (that failed to realize it was in park to save our lives). Same warranty frustrations with our Gen II pri - it had the notorious black screen of death - leaving us on the side of the road - as did 10s of thousands of others. Not to mention Toyota's notorious accelerator pedal issue, where toyo had to chop off part of the bottom of the pedals - the primary cause of unintended acceleration. We've all had our issues with warranty claims & recalls & auto shop visits.
    Just last year, uphill grade, pulling the 5th wheel trailer literally 60/70 miles from podunk nowhere to the closest service center some 60/70 miles to the north we blew apart a turbo boost tube (sounded like a cannon going off). It was under warranty & the real shock was they fixed it in under 2hrs (not counting 3hrs for 2 tow trucks to come out to fetch us) with AVAILABLE PARTS! ! How often does THAT ever happen nowadays at a dealership - as the usual scenario is to stock nothing but filters & such.
     
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