How much is your local "Trump at the Pump Tax?"

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  1. Isaac Zachary

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    Nope. It comes from gas tax and gas tax only. Road and bridge and the general fund are two separate accounts in Colorado cities and counties. This is something that has been a subject of controversy for quite some time in my county. There is an "overflow" of revenue into the general fund but law prevents it from being used to repair and improve roads.

    But as you point out, there is no good solution.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Interesting that fuel taxes are being debated during the so-called 'Prime Day' shopping bonanza..... :ROFLMAO:
     
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    EV owners pay a tag fee, $300/yr in Alabama. Put everyone on a tag fee, problem solved. Index it by number of wheels and/or weight and the problem is gone. Also solves the trailer problem.

    FYI my Model 3:
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    A handful of states, including CA, do have both a flat tax and a sales tax on fuel.

    My state is experimenting with various methods of per-mile taxes.

    That is why many states already have separate hybrid and plug-in fees added into the annual vehicle registration. Now $225/year for plugins in my state, so my PHEV gets to pay both the full plug-in fee and a good chunk of fuel tax too.
    A significant road tire tax will encourage a lot more drivers to drive on severely or dangerously worn tires.
    I've long understood that road wear is much more closely correlated to total axle weight than to contact patch pressure. Heavy vehicles cause more flexing of the deeper roadbed, which accelerates surface breakup and pothole formation.
    In my state, every vehicle pays annual weight fees, according to a few tables listed in state law, indexed in 2000 lb increments. Regular household passenger vehicles pay mid-2-digit fees, the heaviest trucks pay over $3000. BEVs pay the same weight fees that similar-weight SUVs and pickups were already paying.
    Already done in my state, by weight. Trailers also require their own registration and license plate.
     
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    "The LOTTERY will PAY for SCHOOLS".

    Interesting laws such as this need to be READ COMPLETELY.

    Step 1 ... States determine their given budget for schools.
    Step 2 ... Using Lottery $$$ to cover that given budget.
    Step 3 ... Understanding that given state school budgets are never enough.
    Step 4 ... Realizing that the Lottery $$$ will always be more than the $$$ budget for schools. Here's the tricky part ... also understanding that after the school budget are covered that the state will use the rest of the $$$ for whatever the whatever they want. Be aware that it ain'te gonna be more $$$ for schools.

    I hope I've explained that clearly.
     
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    Massachusetts funds schools through property taxes, unequally skewing education budgets by affluence and poverty.
    There are probably programs that try to rectify this to some extent.
    Lottery money is doled out to towns by population, with lower income getting more per capita.
    Lottery money can be used at each city and towns discretion
     
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    Oh no you really opened the door.
    Yea - we often fight with typical USPS delivery people. We have "group" individual mailboxes (near the main entry of our community) & have "large" mailboxes for packages that can't fit in our individual boxes. Our individual 'group' box will have a key (left in it - or not!) that will then unlock large boxes & then (keys can't get removed by anyone other than you USPS). Problem is - USPS can neither get individual packages (much less regular mail) into either our individual nor our bulk boxes correctly. Conscientious Neighbors will *sometimes* find the correct address it's supposed to go to and & walk them over to their house. Others, just steal or throw the bulk (& letter mail) away - - as often we get neither.
    Back to Prime. At LEAST Amazon Prime (typically) pulls up in their own trucks & takes a picture so you know where shizzle ends up. Post office? Lol ! ! ! Not so much. USPS's level of competency is TRULY teaching me to hate.
    Though retired, I'm often tempted to join one of the various mail/package delivery entities. However, our tax structure within make it worse for us, tax and medical benefits wise. This reminds me of welfare. A woman with multiple kids has no incentive to get married. If a husband enters the picture they lose their benefits.
     
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    Named after two brothers whose family name was Angel. Not, as one might have expected from the era it was founded, because it was populated with "Angels" of the sort whose services were in great demand in mining camps.
     
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