Just need to vent...

YouTube is replete with knuckleheads willing to challenge a policeman's authority - all preserved on the officer's body cam. It never goes well. Often, the knuckleheads end up on the ground yelling & screaming, "he killin' me - he killin' me !!!" ..... thinking that will make the cop NOT take them to jail .

.... or the Sovereign citizen whack jobs flashing their home made laser printer I.D. - proving constitutional right to drive with no registration or license. (sigh)

 

all vehicles sold off the lots must have temporary "plates" posted in plain view on the car

and that's just the beginning you had better have proof of insurance as well as the proper papers for the vehicle in case a policeman stops you or you are involved in an accident - in our area and I would think all of the USA you could quickly end up in jail without these.

the USA is not the wild west enterprise some would have you believe

 

Around here, the usual informed-consumer advice is to prefer lining up your own insurance with your own chosen insurer, your own financing through your chosen financial outfit if you're going to finance, and handle your old car, if you have one, as a separate transaction, declining dealer offers to bundle this stuff in.

When I lived in Michigan, I couldn't renew a car registration without bringing my current proof of insurance with me to the counter.

Here in Indiana I can, which is a little scary, having grown up the other way. The question isn't even asked. Instead of checking at registration time, they require proof that you had insurance in effect at the time of any reported accident, or certain moving violations, or at any other time the BMV just feels like asking (though I've never heard of that happening). You get 90 days to arrange for your insurer to send in a certification that your coverage was in effect on the date in question.

So it's not like you'll be riding away from the scene in the back of the squad car. But 90 days later, if you didn't come up with the certificate, you'll have your license suspended then, and possibly face a fine up to $10k, or up to 60 days in jail if it's not your first time.

 

In our state - which is directly below you - you are required to present proof of insurance at registration - also our state somehow receives notification if insurance is cancelled (not switched) after you've registered your vehicle.

Not having insurance when stopped by a policeman or if you have an accident is grounds for immediate arrest and jail but unfortunately often results in just a warning and court appearance for minor incidences.
...i would like to see driving without insurance result in a $500 fine or defined community service worth $500 or force jailed time with monitored community service worth $500.

..wonder if Indiana doesn't do an active check on the records for an insurance policy when a citizen does a registration?

 

Obviously insurance companies have a picuniary interest in keeping people insured - so one would expect them to notify their local DMV - at least in some states. Once in the system, & with the advent of license plate readers (past decade or more), there's a potential income stream that (one might imagine) wouldn't get ignored. Thank you for the heads up George Orwell

 

In Indiana, if you do certain Bad Things, you can be required to have your insurer file an SR-22 form that confirms your ongoing coverage and that they will notify the state if that changes. Otherwise, you don't have to, and it's all handled by the certificate of compliance after an event.

 

In the state of Calif the dealer puts on a temporary plate, it’s like paper, until the metal plates come by mail. The temp plate has the same purpose. Insurance is required and done electronically by tbe insurance company. If you lapse in insurance they notify the DMV. At the next annual registration if there is no insurance on file you can’t register the vehicle. I’m not sure what happens if you register then drop the insurance, never did that.
All of which leads some people driving unregistered and uninsured cars as long as they can get away with it.
Reminds me of the present US administration.

 

Not the case here in Texas. Dealers have permanent plates and check insurance.

 

That’s interesting you have the nerve to bring up George Orwell in these times of dear leader having giant banners draped from buildings with his face on them. On the other hand it fits so well the I see nothing wrong here syndrome. TDS they named it appropriately. But now the board hall monitors will say that’s for Haus of Politics.

 

You unknowingly just made my point

 

TIL state of Indiana and the country of South Korea, are nearly identical in area -- about 6% to SK's advantage (38476 sqmi vs. 36408 / 99678 sqkm vs 94321).

Just watched a YTer bike across South Korea, Seoul to Busan on the famous 4 Rivers trail, nearly-fully bike-only 393 mi / 633km. Took the couple 8 days, lodging to rest more than 1 day, twice. Still almost 50 mi / day overall... but excluding the rest days, completed many legs > 100km (averaging 66 mi / day), on the infamously hilly topography of SK.

 

That's been what puts me off with Microsoft. I already paid for their software. Then they have to put ads in it to try to get me to either purchase more software or to give them my personal information and internet habits so they can make money off of that too. And to top it all off, Microsoft usually kills the products that I find useful and don't have a good alternative.

This is what I was referring to in another post. I would be more than happy to just pay for the products and services that I find useful. But the big corporations are basically saying, "No, we won't offer those products or services to you. But here are these other ones that you're not interested in but they will make us more money so please sign up and use them."

I do really believe that my life would be so much better in so many ways if I just cut the internet to our house and left it like that. The only big downside is that our county decided to cut the TV repeater service, so no OTA emergency messages, and at the same time insists on putting their emergency info on platforms like Facebook, which I hate Facebook. And at the same time, we have wildfires blazing all around us and it's important to be in the know. Ironically, my internet just quadrupled.

Mapa de Watch Duty Wildfire

 

The wisenheimer's that dropped their insurance day after registration ought to have to pay whatever is in the rearadge when their next tags come due

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