How much is your local "Trump at the Pump Tax?"

We have very high property and sales taxes to make up for it.

 

...there is a fascinating study there:
..one state that doesn't even have an income tax and people and businesses are flocking there...


...and another state that people and businesses can't exit quick enough that taxes the daylights out of everything that moves ... but is basically bankrupt and riddled with fraud and corruption:
....and people refuse to vote in any people who would change that particular states situation....

 

I am native born CA and my job allows that I could transfer to any of about half the States in our Country. The total cost of taxes and living in CA vs TX...all other variables being equal...are not even close.

...and my gas is still $1.60-$2.00 cheaper per gallon currently as illustrated above.

 

Crowing about how Texas is an economic nirvana while presenting California as a financial pit is a bit disingenuous. Texas's GDP is $2.90 Trillion while California's GDP is $4.25 Trillion (List of U.S. states and territories by GDP - Wikipedia).

The logic of the pieces of that article quoted are:

• in Texas A (economics good) leads to B (good result)
• in California not A (economics bad) leads to not B (even better result - so we won't mention it)

Not saying that there aren't serious problems in California's economy, but articles that resort to the preceding logic shouldn't be given a whole lot of credence and their "Fair and Balanced" is probably neither.

 

Crowing? If you are happy with how much more it cost to live their...more power to ya. My home alone would cost over 2.5M in your area and I didn't pay the decimal of that...and gas?

 

...California is one of the most ecologically diverse and beautiful states I have ever had the privilege to visit and the people I got to meet in Sacramento were as kind and nice as any I've ever meant........

my post was aimed at the individual who continually whines about the price of gas in California and then elects/votes for the exact people who create the circumstances that cause the price of gas in California to be so high - all the while blaming it on a national politician.

sorry it seemed I was California bashing....do see how it looked that way...

 

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frodoz ... you absolutely crack me up making statements like this, about other members here ...

"You're just some anonymous partisan freak who spews hate on a car forum."

... You're the perfect example of someone throwing rocks from his glass house. ​

 

consider California has the highest homeless population, plus crime & drug addicted folks, & that California has 31% more people than TX, I would hardly say that the state of Calif is stellar - ie GDP is divided upon a whole lot more folks

 

Those things are not mutually exclusive. Cost of gas in California has at least 4 big components:

A + B + C + D

A: costs related to demand, transport, production
B: costs due to local and federal regulation
C: costs due to producers' shenanigans (never mind what that article said, when a bunch of unrelated refineries all go off line at the same time for mysterious "failures", year after year, it isn't a coincidence)
D: costs due to raw material supply, especially the world oil market (at the moment, about $1 per gallon of the price of gasoline as a result of the Iran war, probably going up shortly since bang bang again)

A lot of the regulation around fossil fuels is a trade off between cost and avoiding horrible levels of smog. People who don't live in cities surrounded by mountains may scoff at this, but our airborne waste doesn't just blow away to become somebody else's problem. If all state and federal regulations about these fuels and emissions were removed gas and diesel would be cheaper but many CA cities would be invisible for part of the year under thick brown layers of smog. That's not a hypothetical, that's the way it was before the 1970's

‘The difference is astonishing’: Graph shows how much better California smog is now | KTLA

and I can tell you first hand, breathing that stuff is no picnic. Some of those unpaid regulatory costs might end up as consumer savings, but a lot of it would just be converted to damage costs (to health and property). Conversely, we really cannot declare victory over smog at the current levels of regulation because it is still bad enough to cause substantial health problems, albeit most severely in people who already have a condition that makes them more susceptible, like Asthma or heart disease.

 

That's a fair point. GDP per capita is probably almost the same in the two states. Still, it isn't like Texas is way out in front in that measure, and the faulty logic of the article remains if the result is "same GDP per capita" with or without all the good things cited for one and against the other.

 

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hill ... I'm not positive if I'm getting your point correctly. Are you saying that California is not as productive as Texas because it has more people to determine their GDP?!?

As per the numbers given ... $4.25 T (C) compared to $2.90 T (T) ... California has a GDP $1.35 Trillion more than Texas. Isn't GDP determined as a value per capita?!? That given, it includes all the population of homeless, criminals and drug addicted folks for BOTH states to be determined. I believe that GDP per capita is based on the average of the ENTIRE POPULATION of each state, not considering who works and who doesn't. The numbers don't have any general bias, such as, let's say, the ELECTORAL COLLEGE, where California has more population per vote than Texas.

TEXAS ... Population (2025): 31,709,821 ... Nominal GDP per capita (2024): $86,987, (2025): $91,594

CALIFORNIA ... Population (2025): 39,355,309 ... Nominal GDP per capita (2024): $104,916, (2025): $108,012

 

But California and Texas are supposed to be united. We argue which is better than the other. I was born in Chicago, Berwyn. I can move to Texas tomorrow if I want. Not supposed to be the divided states of America.
Kruschev said we will destroy you from within. Putin is maybe not so different than Kruschev.

 

No actually...I was pointing out that others are paying $1.60-$2.00 more per gallon than I do in TX...but everyone gets mad at Trump for gas prices.

Why weren't they already mad at their own States for over charging for gas to begin with. I lived in CA multiple years and I am a native...taxes and cost of living has always been higher their. Always!

 

I thought it was Costco charging me for gas. No tax on food in California, like Texas.

 

Everyone except devoted maga gets mad at 47 for gas prices and a lot of other things, justifiably so.

 

No one cares at this Junction except those that try to make mountains out of molehills, like orange makeup, fluffy hair, his weight, etc. That's why the OP titled the thread, "Trump" at the pump". But that's the TDS symptom - so carry on

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Oh, posters from California seem to be just reported what they pay for gas.
The more opinionated poster with high gas prices before your posts is in Hawai'i.

 

No one cares about high prices suddenly, it’s making mountains out of molehills. Meanwhile Obama’s name comes up in the news as Comer brings in someone from 12-14 years ago in his admin. to testify about Epstein.
Not Maxwell, not 47, not anyone who can point to 47, who very likely taught Epstein how to traffic young women. The maralago spa where Epstein was “taking his girls.”