How much is your local "Trump at the Pump Tax?"

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  1. Leadfoot J. McCoalroller

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    I haven't bought gasoline in a few weeks so no update there.

    But I did notice that my electric rates are up another notch. I pulled an old bill to compare: up 22.5% in the past 17 months.

    I seem to recall that the President campaigned on making gas and electricity "a fraction of what they are now."

    Well, 6/5 is a fraction, so I guess that's a promise kept? :mad:
     
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    I'm not in the energy industry or agriculture. Using fossil fuels for fertilizer on farmland to grow corn to turn into alcohol to use as a fuel seems ...er...unintuitive.

    I used to know a fellow in the paint industry. He insisted on cars assembled in Japan because their enviro laws allowed a better formula (something about more solids maybe?) that allowed a better finish without "orange peel". I'm sure this involved some terrible chemicals, but Japan decided they wanted a car industry.

    Maybe making industrial regulation so odious that we mostly drive our production to markets happier to have them wasn't the better long term strategy. Having only legacy refineries seems like a problem that will only grow with time.
     
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    I just returned from traveling in a country where 95% of new passenger car sales are EV-only.

    Downtown Oslo was spookily quiet for a bustling modern city. There was no lack of activity, but the surprisingly low level of motor vehicle engine noise really grabbed my attention. There were still some ICEs on the street, mostly some legacy transit busses and delivery trucks that had not yet been replaced. And a few very loud motorcycles bragging by winding up so everyone could hear them a mile away. And a handful of expensive sports cars.

    It was a very pleasant change from the last time I was there, in the 20-teens, when BEVs were already quite prevalent but not close to near-universal.
     
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    ... and solar plant after solar plant, very far ahead of the U.S.

    China added more new solar production capacity in 2025 alone than the U.S.'s total installed capacity since the inception of solar PV.
     
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    yeah, who cares about the environment. let's go back to poisoning our air, soil and water. too many people anyway, and no one cares about the healthcare ramifications or costs
     
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    Yes, oil was pumped faster under Trump-47 than ever before.

    But oil was also pumped faster under Biden than ever before, including Trump-45.

    More was pumped under Trump45 than ever before, including Obama.

    But oil was also pumped faster under Obama than under any President except Nixon. A yyuge increase over Bush.

    The fact is, U.S. production has been generally ramping up for almost two decades, apart from that hiccup called the Pandemic.


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    I'm trying to decode the message :cool:
     
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    Don’t spoil their blast from the past agenda to keep fabricating bad things about Biden. Have a heart, even when they have none.
     
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    For a very long time, our local WNBA team was completely free of the various DV and other legal problems that our former NBA team members had been habitually getting in to. That is no longer true, though the W's issues still haven't come close to matching the scale of the M's.
     
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