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  1. tochatihu

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    Aluminum in vaccines is a matter of concern for RFK Jr. Not so much for the Danes:

    https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/ANNALS-25-00997

    Article posted online for reading. Downloading requires registration for free account. Up to y'all if you want Annals of Internal Medicine to know your email address.
     
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    IIRC, this approach could better target a more broad range of variants, and also get rid of the alterations normally caused by the egg method.
     
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    interestingly, the new fda seems amenable to this fake mnra 'vaccine'
     
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    Vaccines from chicken eggs are old school.
     
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    Source: Nearly 160 sick with flu at US air force base after Hegseth ends mandatory vaccines | US military | The Guardian

    An influenza outbreak has reportedly sickened more than 150 recruits in training at Lackland air force base in San Antonio, Texas.

    The outbreak comes just weeks after the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, ended mandatory flu vaccination for the military, citing the need for bodily autonomy for service members.

    “We’re seizing this moment to discard any absurd overreaching mandates that only weaken our war fighting capabilities,” said Hegseth in an Aprilsocial media video. “In this case that includes the universal flu vaccine and the mandate behind it.

    “Your body, your faith and your convictions are not negotiable,” said Hegseth.

    At least 159 recruits have fallen ill, according to the New York Times and ABC News. After Hegseth made influenza shots optional, only about 40% of recruits opted to get vaccinated, air force officials told the New York Times.
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    There is a reason why professional militaries vaccinate everyone like heck. Cub Scout militaries don’t.

    Bob Wilson


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    Not everyone ‘drank the kool aid.’

    Bob Wilson
     
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    If this Administration was serous about "bodily autonomy", it wouldn't be keeping the people potentially exposed to hantavirus, forcibly quarantined in Nebraska. Especially after telling them they could go home early.

    It also wouldn't be trying to block servicemember's or other people's access to mifepristone and misoprostol.
     
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    ever seen a republican turn down someone else's money?
     
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    2026 joins 2025 with US exceeding 2000 measles cases. Along with current media interest, we can seek fuller perspective.

    Before vaccines, US measles cases ranged from 150 to 890 thousands per year:

    Measles cases in the United States | Our World in Data

    Causing about 10 thousand deaths per year (data not shown). Highest childhood vaccination rates (96%) were about in early 1980s, and that lowered cases to about 1500/yr. This is firm causality. With whatever motivations, Federal support for vaccination declined, vaccination rates declined, and cases increased to almost 28 thousands in 1990. Pendulum then swung back towards vaccination, got near (medical community desired) 95%, and annual cases fell to below 1000.

    More recently (MMR) vaccination has faced opposition (without demonstrated evidence of harm), vaccination rates fell to 91% overall with some areas lower, and 2025 and 2026 cases became clickbait. Infection hotspots got invited to vaccinate, and this 'fire fighting' is effective.

    Nearly no one dies from measles in US now. Excellent medical care wins. This remains a success story in global context, with apparently politically based opposition 'making hay' and clickbait doing similar in other ways.

    Measles, while not being 'over' in US (and Euro), has become a thing for political/ideological argument. I would not agree that a list of such things needs to be added to.

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    Meanwhile elsewhere measles has been imperfectly suppressed:

    Measles vaccines save millions of lives each year | Our World in Data

    With cases being hundreds or thousand times more than deaths, infection (and measles is very good at that) arrival into US will continue. So arguments will also continue.
     
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    If any readers here know not of Cyclospora, you are isolating very well from all media.

    Explosive diarrhea is clickbait here. Cyclospora are protozoans (animals) that only reproduce in (bigger) animals' intestines, and are very good at persisting as spores in soil. Putting spores into soil requires big-animal poop. Transferring back to big animals requires plants grown in spore-containing soils, and those plants ingested by big animals without cooking to 70 oC. Yeah we now hear a lot about how to wash raw vegetables, but one is betting one's happiness (a week or two later) on removing all of the spores.

    'A week or two later' is because these are not bacteria; with bad among those causing sickness within hours. Time required to show infection makes it hard to know what meal did the dirty.

    With all that, Taylor Farms de Mexico has been tagged as a source. (Not only) Taco Bell (TM) buys their lettuce. Taco Bell (TM) now offers lettuce-free meals at steep discounts. They seem not inclined to cook all products to 70 oC, which would solve this problem. With almost all 48 CONUS states 'exploding', it is hard to suppose Taco Bell (TM) is the only source of Cyclospora.

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    Y'all won't die from Cyclospora. Its unpleasantness cannot compare to dysentery, which actually kills people. Oh that, Big D, includes Shigella bacteria and Entamoeba parasites, with both having fecal-infection routes, meaning everyone in the chain should know how to wash their damn hands. And do it.

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    (Nobody asked) I do enjoy eating raw plants for texture and taste, but pooping by my priors impinges.
     
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    A 'living in China" story nobody asked for. Bean sprouts (Vigna radiata: Fabaceae) are sold widely here, and good in stir frying. So, I bought a bag and ate some, and seller said (something like) 'hey no, idiot, those need to be cooked before eating".

    Vigna mung beans are sprouted in water, wherein bacteria may develop and attach. They are to be cooked very briefly; ostensibly enough to kill surface bacteria but not hydrolyze vitamin C which seems to be Vigna mung bean sprouts' main 'claim' beyond providing texture and visual interest.

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    Vitamin C is desired for benefits not well shown by careful studies. Better said, low intake is needed, but high-intake benefits are ???. Vitamin C is weak resisting cooking, so get your dose from uncooked fruits. Or pills, if they are not overpriced.

    A different vitamin D is desired for benefits and not cooked off.
     
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    Questions:
    • At home, wash with a different pH (i.e., vinegar) be more effective?
      • We grew a garden and I can't vouch for the bagged soil used for the bed. Only tomatoes, bell pepper and peas are washed and eaten uncooked and typically don't rest on the soil. The squash is cooked and watermelons eaten the traditional way with throwing out the rind.
    • Can food preparation staff hands transfer to other surfaces as in "I'll have mine without lettuce."?
      • Burger King allows omitting 'dressings' like lettuce. Eating there about 1-2 times a week, is cross contamination by the staff serious risk assuming they follow ordinary hygiene methods used.
    To avoid a vitamin K drug interaction, my diet avoids leafy greens with the exception of coleslaw with BBQ. In Dixie we have a low pH 'vinegar slaw' and usually prepared early hours and refrigerated before customers.

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    I am reminded of:

    Neil deGrasse Tyson explains that the United States historically benefited from a global "brain drain," drawing top international science and engineering talent because America was where the resources and opportunities were. However, he warns that this trend is shifting into a reverse brain drain as other nations build up their own scientific infrastructure and H-1B talent returns home or goes elsewhere.​

    This is the risk, a reverse brain drain. Xenophobes would have driven a large number of early atom bomb scientists and engineers away when we needed them to design and build atomic bombs. An old joke, "Why did Hitler never develop an atom bomb? He had no Jewish scientists."

    Elon Musk is a strong proponent of the H-1B visa program, arguing that skilled immigration is essential for American innovation and competitiveness. Having previously worked in the U.S. on an H-1B visa himself, Musk has repeatedly criticized attempts to shut down the program, noting that his companies constantly struggle to find enough talented engineers.​

    So I make it a point to praise any non-native workers who run their own businesses with my appreciation for their hard work and contribution to my country. Only the mentally slow oppose competition from immigrants.

    Bob Wilson
     
    #295 bwilson4web, Jul 25, 2026 at 3:53 AM
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