Just need to vent...

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by Mendel Leisk, Jul 6, 2022.

  1. bisco

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    I like the pull through too, but a lot of lots have angled parking and one way aisles :(
     
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    Maybe where you live :p

    Was rare growing up, unless driver were in heavy machinery like a dump truck or sanitation vehicle, where mirrors and slow pace kept them in the black -- that's acceptable. Not in a f***ing Altima :rolleyes:
     
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    Parking, can see the need, esp for larger vehicles. Used to be a driver for a tour company -- if you trigger on me doing this, then a one-fingered reaction is warranted :cautious:

    Pulling into a car park in your compact, then crossing the dividing line causing oncoming to dynamite the brakes like it's your right, get your shite together -- and get some insurance whilst you're at it :rolleyes:
     
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    Talking about turn radius, I tried to accommodate people following hoping to go the same turn direction as me, & not cut us off by trying to slip alongside of us & towing the 5th wheel trailer - we ended up smooshing against one of those steel & concrete filled yellow poles at a gas station pulling into get a refill in the pickup. So yeah, from now on? Count on anything longer than one vehicle to take a super wide opposite turn before the main turn starts? You can count on it.

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    the cost for the expense of making that way too narrow a turn was in the 4 figures for fifth wheel sheet metal repair
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  6. Mendel Leisk

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    I’ve read vehicles can back with less turning radius than head first. I’m terrible at it though, and have only thumb-sized back up camera, in rear view mirror, no lines, funhouse wide angle.
     
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    Turned into a filling station pulling GF's sailboat, and to avoid any fancy maneuvering, pulled alongside a pump with my filler door on the far side. The hose will reach just fine, done it a gazillion times.

    But this time, the attendant comes running out of the booth to explain to me what side my filler door is on. He won't stop. No, you pull on wrong side. Fill on that side. Pull to pump that side.

    It seems easier not to stand there trying to argue with him, kind of exasperating, so ok, we'll just pull over to that other island there.

    Crunch. Concrete bollard.

    That was a pricey fiberglass repair.
     
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    I recall first time in my life gassing up a car: pulled up to the pump, saw my gas cap was on the far side. Did some fancy, 3-point turn, came back alongside another pump, it was STILL on the wrong side... Think I got lucky with the next attempt; I'm trying to blot out the memory.
     
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    My dad gave me $5 Sears coupons to fill the tank when I was 15.5 years old. I think he wanted to be sure I filled the tank and did not waste $ on other "things." In those days, the station attendant did the "clean the windows, check the oil and fill the gas" routine.
     
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    One modern tech add-on not needed 40y driving I'd actually found useful, was indeed the backup camera.

    Doesn't replace just turning your melon around and looking out the rear glass (ime people managed just fine 40y and arguably 100, doing just this... maybe a bit slower in larger vehicles, or w\ lazier drivers). But at a glance, the fisheye lens can look around corners and see oncoming, your own wetware lenses won't see until you're feet more into the road. Useful, and defo worth it. All the rest of the crutches? Lower the price of my 5G $3K -- don't need them when I know I'm paying attention / doing due diligence :rolleyes:

    As before rode single-track more than drove, a large chunk of my life -- there's no lane-keep-assist or pedestrian-braking tech for motorcycle commuters (hell, we just got ABS and airbags as std for sports-/touring motos, not going to be on affordable bikes for a while, if ever -- esp sportsbikes). If you can't invest the effort to pay attention and not end up in a ditch on a moto... serves you right, your biffed call. But in a 3K - 6K-lb steel cage... gonna pull more innocents into your stupidity -- thus tech to baby them even further, that's the solution :cautious:

    So along with cues the screen gives me, also make the effort to use mirrors just as much -- so I'm not having to borrow someone's older car, f***ing lost. The camera, is supposed to supplement your diligence, not replace it. What you do daily, is what you'll get used to :coffee:
     
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    I would second that and go so far as to say that statement applies to all driver safety features (even so-called self-driving features)
     
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    There's almost zero visibility out the back end of many cars nowadays.
     
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    I don't buy the refrain "I am a great driver." First its rarely true and second the vast majority need help.

    Blindspot monitoring with turn signals helps on 75mph freeways with Nascar style drafting the normal. Some are really stupid Prius drivers.

    Lane keep Toyota style is worth the effort as is cross traffic detection as you pull out of a parking spot surrounded by Dodge Rams and Tundras. Eyes have no chance.

    Approaching too fast with an audible warning has woken quite a few zoned out drivers before the pre collision slams.

    TPMS saves lives for those who actual use their 2010 Prius. The black tape guys are risking others as well.
     
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    I treat them like chopsticks or frame safeties.

    I know how to use them.
    Many times I WILL use them if they're available - but unlike 99% of my fellow Americans I actually know how to adjust my side mirrors to reduce blind spots. (I do not need my mirrors to remind me what color my car is....)
    I still jab at the camera button occasionally if I'm in a hurry and I'm not 100% sure that I raised the tailgate - so it IS useful for that.
     
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