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My attempt at grill blocking

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications' started by Green Hokie, Oct 14, 2007.

  1. Green Hokie

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    Tried my best to be creative and think of ways to make an "OEM" looking grill blocker. In the end, I just ended up using pipe insulation like those before me. However, I was very meticulous with cutting the individual foam strips and got it to look as "OEM" as you can get. Check it out. Notice how I cut/installed the insulation around the EBH cord/plug.

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  2. F8L

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    That looks great!

    I'm going to head over to Home Depot in a little while if this girl doesn't call back. lol

    *goes off to search for the thread about what size tube to buy*
     
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    Finally got to the lower grill today. Did all except the lowest space and left a little open on the left side. Looks similar to yours Green Hokie. Then went out this afternoon for a spin - OAT 61 degrees, 10% city/90% highway. fWT never rose beyond 191', but did a MUCH better job of maintaining temp on the highway. Now the heat gained from the EBH won't be undone in 5 minutes. Will see how it affects my short commute this coming week. Thanks again FireEngineer!
     
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    Nice! Looks very OEM. If anyone who does not know what grill blocking is, is looking at the pics they will be wondering what the heck they are looking at. :)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(F8L @ Oct 14 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]525591[/snapback]</div>
    1 inch pipe insulation.

    Last year's insulation is starting to not stay wedged in as well. I'm going to have to buy some more before the winter sets in.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TonyPSchaefer @ Oct 14 2007, 09:40 PM) [snapback]525665[/snapback]</div>
    Same issue for me...it's stayed in for a few weeks but is noticably loose and I'm afraid at freeway speed or a bad cross wind it may dislodge.

    Greenie, how, exactly, did you cut your pieces to get them to fit so neatly?
     
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    Wow, that really is a great job and does look OEM!! Nice!!

    Yeah I had to replace my tubes from last year too. I lost all 4 of them in separate incidents. One was lost when I forgot to remove them before going through a touchless car wash, the others were lost when they flew off the road somewhere. Oddly enough, they didn't fly up and over the windshield...
     
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    Very impressive Green Hokie.

    Can anyone confirm if the insulation is lost by going out the back of the grill, or out the front of the grill?

    Maybe if the segments are tied together or held in place with more than just friction, they will stay in place?

    My next project is Amsoil oil bypass filter but will also look into adding and securing pipe insulation since it's starting to get cold in the mornings.

    I would think a single piece with small concealed bungy cords holding each grill cover would better?
     
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    Thanks Tony :)

    I'll try to figure out how to secure them a little better after hearing about yours (and Evan's) lossening up.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Oct 14 2007, 10:42 PM) [snapback]525666[/snapback]</div>
    Very slowly & carefully with a pair of scissors. The attached sketch shows how I cut/formed all pieces.
    With the way I made these pieces, they are not coming off the grill...unless I want them too. Now, how long they will last because of the weather & deterioration remains to be seen.

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Green Hokie @ Oct 15 2007, 06:00 AM) [snapback]525783[/snapback]</div>
    Not sure I understand....did you split the pipe insulation lengthwise? How wide were the strips if so?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Oct 15 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]525793[/snapback]</div>
    It looks to me Green Hokie jammed to whole length of the insulation rod in between the ribs (you can see the individual ribs in his pictures). Since there is slightly more space in between the ribs on the upper grill he used the thicker 3/4" rods and used the 1/2" rods in between the thinner lower grill. When I used the same method I found that in the upper grill the rods stay in place much easier than on the lower. I was also thinking to cut vertical slits for the lower grill blocking to match the vertical braces and to make sure the blocker stay in place.

    Green Hokie I assume the vertical slits you cut are at the point where the pipe insulation split is (perpendicular to it)? By cutting these slits the insulation can be pushed in further and there is more points of contact where the friction fit holds it in place.

    Thanks for the informative post,
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(efusco @ Oct 15 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]525793[/snapback]</div>
    Yes. I did split the insulation lengthwise. I didn't measure the width. It was a trial & error process to end up with the "right" thickness for a snug fit for both the upper & lower grill slots. Again, for the upper grill, I started with the 3/4" diameter insulation and for the lower grill I used the 1/2" size. Also, for the very top & bottom slots on the lower grill, simply folding the 1/2" insulation in half does not work (still too thick). Therefore, using the 3/4" size insulation, I cut two strips into a pie-shaped cross-section (as shown in my sketch). An outside width of about 7/8" resulted in a perfectly snug fit for both the top & lower slot on that bottom grill. There was no need to cut vertical slits into these two particular strips.


    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Prius 07 @ Oct 15 2007, 08:52 AM) [snapback]525799[/snapback]</div>
    Yes. That is correct. Works perfectly.


    By the way, does anyone know if a coolant temp of 207 F is too high? That was the max reading recorded by SGII during my 18 mile drive to work this morning. All grill slots were blocked. I think the outside air temp was in the low-to-mid 50's. I know... I should do a search on this. B)
     
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    I did the search for you: http://priuschat.com/index.php?s=&show...st&p=458625

    It looks like max is ~212 oF and the engine fan will run at 204, in which case you're better off unblocking, probably. I don't know where those numbers come from, other than the boiling point of water, so if someone can verify accuracy, that would be nice.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(F8L @ Oct 15 2007, 12:32 AM) [snapback]525746[/snapback]</div>
    I've put some thought into the problem. The only thing I've come up with that I like is actually stitching them into place.
    I do not want anything more to show on the front, so I would use strong, black thread and stitch the bottom and top ones together (for the two above the bumper). What I mean is, pierce the top piece from behind and then go back through in a new spot about an inch over. Then run the thread down to the bottom piece and do the same to that one. It would tighten them against the vertical bars in the back. You would only need to do a few spots.

    Another option is to tie them to the vertical bars individually.

    The only problem with both options is that it would be difficult to work in the back like that.

    If that didn't make sense, I can try to draw a picture.

    But since a single $2 bag lasted a full year, I plan on just replacing them as they loosen.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ichabod @ Oct 15 2007, 10:39 AM) [snapback]525818[/snapback]</div>
    Thanks! Looks like I need to remove at least one of the foam strips. Hopefully, just the very bottom piece.

    By the way, I have revised my sketch from post #10 to make it a little more clear on how I cut the individual strips. Here's another copy of the revised sketch. Hope that helps.
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    Tony, with the vertical slits in the foam, there's no way they're coming out unless you decide to pull them off for cleaning, etc...
     

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Green Hokie @ Oct 15 2007, 12:30 PM) [snapback]525874[/snapback]</div>
    That's clean. Nice job! Wanna redo mine for me? :p

    I have the bottom slit on the bottom grill open, and originally planned like last winter to keep it open until winter sets in for good. This will be my first winter with Can-View, so I might plug up that slit sooner, watching inverter temperatures closely.
     
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    Is there anything other than some documented user experience that suggests that pipe insulation is the best candidate for the job of grill blocking?

    What I mean is, sure it's a nice fit, and it's made to insulate, but isn't the whole point just to block airflow? So something thinner may work too? Like a custom tailored piece of windproof fabric like the fabric a wind-breaker is made from? Or a thin but firm sheet of plastic, cut to fit?

    I'm the type to do something like that, so I might give it a try this winter. I'd especially love to do it with fabric and some heavy-duty snaps... maybe even put a zipper on it for variable air flow.

    [adds to bottom of long to-do list...]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ichabod @ Oct 15 2007, 06:31 PM) [snapback]526071[/snapback]</div>
    sure, you can put something behind the grill if you wish, you can use whatever you like. I think the pipe insulation has risen to the surface b/c 1) it's pliable, 2) it's cheap, 3)it's an insulating material (not that that's likely to make a difference), and 4) it's easy to manipulate and modify.
     
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    I improved a grill blocker out of double corrugated cardboard. I'll then cut it out of 1/16" or 3/32" black textured ABS sheet plastic. (I'm using a small bungy cord to hold it in place in the picture.) I could also apply thin strip of foam insulation to the backing and around the edges to ensure it is sealed to the grill and surrounding edges.

    I'm also going to use 3/32" black textured ABS plastic to mold/shape a cover for the NAV/MFD to block the glare from the sun.

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    The explanation for the bra being pulled down is the bra manufacturer doesn't take into account the plastic trim piece found on the 2007. I haven't tried the Toyota dealer sold bra yet since it doesn't cover as much area but I have one.
     

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