1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

How often do you use your headlights?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by Stev0, Dec 9, 2007.

?
  1. They are always on

    24 vote(s)
    39.3%
  2. I only turn them on at night and bad weather

    33 vote(s)
    54.1%
  3. I only turn them on at night

    4 vote(s)
    6.6%
  4. I never turn them on, even at night

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Stev0

    Stev0 Honorary Hong Kong Cavalier

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2006
    7,201
    1,073
    0
    Location:
    Northampton, MA
    Vehicle:
    2022 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Or: What comes first: safety or mileage?
     
  2. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2006
    18,058
    3,074
    7
    Location:
    Northern Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    The jury is still out about safety advantages of daylight running lights in good weather.

    Tom
     
  3. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    15,140
    611
    0
    Location:
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Vehicle:
    2013 Nissan LEAF
    Model:
    Persona
    many will say that headlights being on is a minimal impact to mileage... but its still an impact. in cities, DRL's are nearly completely unnoticed by me. so i keep them off until dark, i use running lights only during the fading light...when i have a chance. being this far north, its dark coming and going to work and would be even if i were only doing 8 hour shifts

    i will say that in the Mojave Desert, in bright sunlight on one of those 10 mile straightaways, i could see it as being a safety issue, but no where else really
     
  4. Neicy

    Neicy Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2007
    834
    19
    0
    Location:
    Wakefield, MA.
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    XLE
    Stev0, I will really have to think hard about that one:D.
     
  5. auricchio

    auricchio Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2006
    921
    7
    0
    Location:
    Cambria, CA, USA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Assuming 20 amps for the headlights, that's a 240-watt load at 12v.

    That 240 watts is about 0.33 horsepower. Even allowing for conversion inefficiency, it's below one horsepower.

    I don't use my HID headlights except at night, but I'd like some type of DRL. There have been several times where, after a quick glance, I didn't immediately spot a silver/gray car on a concrete road. If he had DRLs, that would have made all the difference.

    I worked out a scheme to rewire the Prius fog lights as DRLs, retaining the same auto-off as the headlights. But I never got around to implementing it.
     
  6. Rae Vynn

    Rae Vynn Artist In Residence

    Joined:
    May 21, 2007
    6,038
    707
    0
    Location:
    Tumwater, WA USA
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I can't actually answer the poll, as my answer is "At night, when it's raining, when it's really cloudy, or foggy, or if I notice that I'm not seeing other cars really clearly"... basically, they aren't on if the sun is on full bright, and they are on otherwise.
     
  7. galaxee

    galaxee mostly benevolent

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    9,810
    466
    0
    Location:
    MD
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    all the time. but they're halogens and i really don't give a crap about having to replace them.
     
  8. Stev0

    Stev0 Honorary Hong Kong Cavalier

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2006
    7,201
    1,073
    0
    Location:
    Northampton, MA
    Vehicle:
    2022 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I'd consider rain, fog, or having it cloudy enough to impact visibility "bad weather".
     
  9. Rae Vynn

    Rae Vynn Artist In Residence

    Joined:
    May 21, 2007
    6,038
    707
    0
    Location:
    Tumwater, WA USA
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Um, that would be about 10.5 months here. It isn't bad weather, it is just our normal weather :)
     
  10. dumas

    dumas Junior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2006
    44
    0
    0
    Location:
    NC
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Anytime it's not bright sunlight. I want to be seen.
     
  11. JHSmith

    JHSmith 2020 Avalon Hybrid Owner

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2006
    184
    5
    0
    Location:
    King George, VA
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    All the time. Last two cars (96 Grand-Am and now '07 TCH) have had DRL and Auto-Lights.

    I think I have always run with lights on.

    Like Galaxee, mine are halogens and normally last a LONG time and relatively cheap.
     
  12. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    44,973
    16,195
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    In Canada, we have DRLs and they're about 80% full intensity so they're "on" all the time.

    I have the parking lights on any time it's gloomy (not necessarily cloudy since it can be cloudy and still fairly bright), misty, raining etc (basically the "bad weather" part in the poll). I also have them on if it's sunny in the winter (because of the low sun angle).

    I'll use full headlights if necessary (heavy rain/snow, fog, night of course).


    DRLs may not be useful down south but when the sun's at a really acute angle (or a large angle if you're using azimuth), then having the lights on really help me see the oncoming cars against the sunlit background.
     
  13. TonyPSchaefer

    TonyPSchaefer Your Friendly Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2004
    14,816
    2,498
    66
    Location:
    Far-North Chicagoland
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Mine are always on. It's not so much the safety of having them on in fair weather, but like auricchio said, I want to make sure my Tideland is visible against the background and especially at dusk.

    These days, it's dark when I'm going to work and dark when I head home.
     
  14. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    19,011
    4,081
    50
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA.
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I have mine on all the time. bulbs and ballasts are not that expensive and if it can even remotely reduce the risk of an accident then I will use them.

    On most days I always notice the car with it's headlights on faster than I do then if he had them off. It is really pronounced when near parked cars as it immediately lets you know that car is on and may be moving.
     
  15. oxnardprof

    oxnardprof Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2004
    249
    17
    0
    Location:
    Oxnard, CA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    What is the cost of replacing the HID lights? I wonder if they will need to be replaced at an earlier age if they are on all the time.
     
  16. galaxee

    galaxee mostly benevolent

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    9,810
    466
    0
    Location:
    MD
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    HIDs aren't cheap (~$300/bulb) and the only instances DH ever saw of HIDs burning out were full time use. and that was only a couple of them.
     
  17. HighBreed

    HighBreed Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2007
    113
    3
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles/Orange Counties
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    I read it somewhere that turning on the headlights during daytime is actually a very cheap insurance. It makes sense but I still don't do it.
     
  18. F8L

    F8L Protecting Habitat & AG Lands

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2006
    19,011
    4,081
    50
    Location:
    Grass Valley, CA.
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Dealership prices for the bulbs would indeed be expensive. I would simply replace mine with aftermarket units. They can be had for $150-$400 for a complete set including ballasts. Difference in price being asian equipment vs german equipment usually. I've used the cheaper aftermarket units on two of my trucks and my Trans Am and they worked well. One did have an issue with not turning one of the bulbs on reliably though. That's what I get for going cheap!
     
  19. Stev0

    Stev0 Honorary Hong Kong Cavalier

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2006
    7,201
    1,073
    0
    Location:
    Northampton, MA
    Vehicle:
    2022 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    So basically they aren't on for 1.5 months out of the year. At least, during the day. :)
     
  20. paulccullen

    paulccullen New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2006
    276
    3
    0
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    This seems like a no-brainer to me. I leave them on all the time. For a very small increase in energy, I get improved safety, and the convenience of not having to touch the light switch (since the lights go off automatically when I turn the car off and open the door). :)