Wheel vibration problem. non stock wheels.

I installed new wheels onto my car. the size is located in my signature.

one of the wheels was "curbed"... so i figured it's bent and it's causing a wobble.. but i think i found it to be much worse of a problem then that.

when you take the stock wheels off the car, or put them back on, you'll notice that the wheel is snug agains the center bearing "shim". these new wheels i installed free float on the lug pins.. ( 1cm gap between the center outer diameter and the wheel inner diameter) so i have a feeling that the lugs can never perfectly center the wheel causing it to develop a natural wobble.. whichever one happens to be wobeling.

my question. does anyone know of a product or shim that take up that center hub area? if i explained this horribly.. i guess i can take pics.

 

I don't have the money for new wheels.

i purchased these used. any clue where i can find that shim piece?.. er.. whatever it is. (spacer?)

i googled with failed results.

my goodyear comforthreads wore out and i didn't have money to put new ones on. even cheap tires would almost hit 400dollars installed.. so i purchased these rims/tire combo from somoene for 300 bucks. it's wider (i wanted) with a smaller tire wall (i wanted)

 

so.. i'm looking again.. i'm finding spacers with the larger hub piece built into it.
the only reason i see for using a spacer is to move the wheel out farther because it might rub. i'm not having rub issues.. but with 215 tires.. i'm wondering if pushing it out several mm with a spacer will be benificaial to the suspensions movement.

the only reason i'm hesitant against this is because the wheels would probably touch the outer fender well if i add in this spacer.

so.. i'm wondering if there is only a hub ring.. no extra space added.. just filling in the gap. i'll take a pic or few later. i'll show wheel clearance and such.

 

oh wow.. i'll have to look into the batch number.

they are "tuner" wheels. they are designed for 5x100 or 5x114 ( i think).. they would have to balance on the lugs themselves. maybe i installed that one wrong. I did notice a wobble at around 55 to 60 that's odd.. it seems to almost even out past that but still noticable.

i'm trying to post pictures now.. give me a min. i'll have to runout and check the wheel numbers.. if i can find them.. it's raining out. hehe

 

You can see the gap where I've inserted a #2 screwdriver. Stock rims sit on that inner rim. mine balance on the lugs. You can see the tuner lugs. They are a pain.. the key is flimsy since it has to clear the wheel while tightening or loosening.

The wheels protrude out a fair amount. You can see the small black piece that dimples out behind the wheel. that's the aftermarket mud flap. the rear wheel and mud flap are visible. (mainly mud flap)

If i shim these wheels i would think they would hit the outer wheel well...

I tried to take a photo of the space above the wheel.... didn't work.


here's a pic of my wheels clearance.

 

thanks for the info. I've looked around ( i'll continue looking) and i found sets. these sets don't tell me measurments. to make matters worse, i don't know the measurement of the hub. I'll have to borrow my friends "micro measuring" device... i wish i knew the real name... i'll check the hub diameters and see what i can find online.

i'll check my local craigslist for people tossing some out...

 

thanks for the opinion Ken. i tend to trust you on most subject

I was reading up a lot of post about this on various forms. others tend to say that you can try to only use the lugs.. but they don't trust the strength of the lugs to hold the car alone.

i still need to see if the wheels match. so far i haven't found any numbers anywhere on the wheels. *shrug*

 

i checked the numbers on the wheels. they all match up.

i found a guy with shims. we are not sure if they are the right size. he has a micrometer, so he'll check for me.

 

i don't have money to spare like that. i've seen many sizes sold online.


now my problem is finding my lug key. it was a super cheap piece (crappy) that failed on my after i installed the tires.. i had to cut off the tip of the key because it was stripped.... sigh... now to look for it again. and again...

 

thanks for the info. that's the same good advice i found on toyotanation.com or something like that.

i can care less about my mileage. it surpasses any other car my family owns.