Again, AGW is really starting to run out of gas..

viking31 · Feb 8, 2008

I'll be taking bets to see how long before someone links this article to either: Exxon, George Bush, Dick Cheney, the Republicans, the neocons, (did I miss anybody??). Oh, and let's not forget the omnipresent "Peer Review Committee".

It has been disturbingly quiet on this board regarding spirited discussions regarding AGW (after all, much of the world is experiencing record cold temps, oops, forgot, I know, it's all part of AGW...).

The article is here.

A few cut and pastes from the article as featured in IBD below:

Back in 1991, before Al Gore first shouted that the Earth was in the balance, the Danish Meteorological Institute released a study using data that went back centuries that showed that global temperatures closely tracked solar cycles.
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Solar activity fluctuates in an 11-year cycle. But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet. The lack of increased activity could signal the beginning of what is known as a Maunder Minimum, an event which occurs every couple of centuries and can last as long as a century.
Such an event occurred in the 17th century. The observation of sunspots showed extraordinarily low levels of magnetism on the sun, with little or no 11-year cycle.
This solar hibernation corresponded with a period of bitter cold that began around 1650 and lasted, with intermittent spikes of warming, until 1715. Frigid winters and cold summers during that period led to massive crop failures, famine and death in Northern Europe.
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And most importantly:

The study says that "try as we might, we simply could not find any relationship between industrial activity, energy consumption and changes in global temperatures."
The study concludes that if you shut down all the world's power plants and factories, "there would not be much effect on temperatures."
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Yes, it's great the one side effect from implementing AGW measures are increased awareness of the consumption of oil and coal.

BUT it's the increase in added costs to sequester carbon, trade carbon credits (which only benefit the traders who get the commissions which are in turn paid by all, rich and poor alike), and overall that stifle economies which in turn leads to a decrease in the human quality of life, all of which are clearly have virtually no impact whatsoever on the environment, atmosphere, or global temperatures.

Rick
#4 2006

Alric · Feb 8, 2008

A peer-reviewed article would be best. It might be better than just someone's opinion. These are hard to refute:

SSimon · Feb 8, 2008

viking31 said: ↑

BUT it's the increase in added costs to sequester carbon, trade carbon credits (which only benefit the traders who get the commissions which are in turn paid by all, rich and poor alike), and overall that stifle economies which in turn leads to a decrease in the human quality of life, all of which are clearly have virtually no impact whatsoever on the environment, atmosphere, or global temperatures.

Rick
#4 2006
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Stifled economies aren't the only event that lead to a decrease in the human quality of life, a degraded environment contributes to this as well. And the two are so interrelated, isn't it time we stop departmentalizing them?

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