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Is the HD war over?

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by eagle33199, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. ken1784

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    How long are we talking before BR is able to overcome the appeal of DVD?

    So far, progress is half that DVD had on VHS.
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    Realistically,when they start selling Blu-ray porn.
     
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    A BR disc only costs 5 dollars more than a regular DVD, and I expect that the difference will 'disappear' around the holidays this year.

    I know you're a little bitter that it went down this way and BR came out on top, but it is what it is.
     
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    Can't resist any opportunity for spite, eh? You know darn well that the BR selection available averages $29.99. That's well above the $14.99 average people have been routinely paying for DVDs.

    When was the last time you paid $34.99 for a new release?
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    CD music disks used to cost that much, and that was when money was worth something. The price will come down with volume, and the lower prices will drive volume...it goes round and round and lower and lower. Then technology will come out with something better and the cycle will repeat, or we will move into a new area like we did with mp3 players and downloads.

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    John,

    According to most sources, the average price difference for new releases on both formats is around 5 dollars. Most of the titles I've looked at on Amazon are under 25 bucks (again, new releases), which compares quite well to the ~20 dollar price point for new release DVDs.


    So, no, I don't know that darn well, and apparently... neither do you. :)
     
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    New releases only?

    Try Best Buy. Try Target. Look at the *entire* selection available.

    You'll clearly see that prices are close to double.
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    On another note. For the first time I rented an HD movie through my AppleTV. It looked much better than DVD and I couldn't tell the difference to the BR version.

    It was $4.99, I didn't have to go to the store and I wouldn't buy the whole thing anyway. In addition, its kind of nice to sit down and make a selection from many movies on the spot. It only took a few minutes to start playing once I selected it.
     
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    Yes, John, that's why I said "New Releases Only". I qualified it. I'd bet that new releases outsell back catalog items, and that's where most of the action happens.
     
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    A release is new for how long? Stop avoiding the obvious.
     
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    Dude, I'm not sure what you're on about... but look at something like Terminator 3... certainly not a new release. 20 bucks on amazon. X-Men 3, same deal.

    So, yeah... I'm not disputing that some blu-ray prices are higher... and you can certainly cherry pick what you like and get all anarakish about what constitutes a 'new release'. But it is what it is dude, and the prices aren't all that different.
     
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    Ding! Both fighters to their neutral corners. This thread is turning into a pis*ing match, which isn't going anywhere.

    The core of this discussion is the price difference between blu-ray and DVD. Many DVDs can be purchased dirt cheap. This is because DVDs have been around for a long time and there is now a large amount of production capacity. New release DVDs and ones in high demand are still pricey, but you can get a lot of the older, less popular titles for next to nothing. The same thing happed with VHS tapes. The price difference between blu-ray and DVD for new releases and high demand titles has dropped to around $5, but you can excpect DVD prices to further drop as blu-ray gains market share. Prices for both are following the normal product life-cycle commonly seen with consumer electronics.

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    I am very happy with my PS3 vice blue-ray player.
    There is some fan nose, but my dish receiver has some nose too. The PS3 fan speed adjusts to the heat load. I would say the nose is negligible but if you put it in a glass enclosed shelf you would not hear anything.
    The PS3 also can store and play home video’s, MP3/WMA music. I can stream music and video from my Vista computer media player to my PS3 and watch a though my HDTV and sound system. Plus the PS3 has a cool video of the earth as seen from space while you jam to your music. ;)
    You can surf the web, chat with video/voice with other PS3’s around the world, run Folding@home program if you know what that is.
    Connect USB and various memory cards (PS3 80GB only)or a remote control and key board that uses blue tooth. PS3 has WIFI and NIC for internet connections built in. You can even connect an external hard drive via USB or a keyboard/mouse.
    Video’s are outstanding and up to 1080p I recommend it.:D
     
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    i will do the same for HD as i did for VHS and DVD... wait until it all works with everything and its $99...
     
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    Netflix rents Bluray for the same price as DVD.
    Why buy discs when you can rent them cheap?
    A month ago I didnt see anything I wanted to rent.
    I went through their list again and found about a dozen that I want to see,including "Planet Earth".
     
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    Yup! That's the observation I had back then and expect the same with this too.

    Once prices have reached a happy low plateau, then the masses will join in.
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    i saw planet earth when it debuted on discovery... now that would be an excellent choice for HD...great series!!
     
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    I actually saw a few reviews on this:
    Apple TV 2.0 vs. Blu-Ray, DVD & HD Cable: The Comparison [updated] | iLounge
    I think the conclusion was that Apple TV is better than HD Cable, but not quite as good as Blu Ray.
    Personally, I've only ever seen HD Apple TV (which I think is fairly good, but didn't seem as sharp as live HD TV) and not Blu Ray on my TV so I'm a bit curious to make the comparison myself.
     
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    And the winner is: Blu-ray!

    continued:
    Toshiba Officially Drops HD DVD | High-Def Digest