Big 3 to deepen discounts

Maybe, but where do the foreign-owned U.S. plants resource the jobs that you wanted the U.S. to keep? They employ Americans.

 

Your telling me that your complaining about cracks in the steering wheel or other small plastic parts breaking? Up here in the severe winters things like this break on any vehicle. It's a mechanical machine and eventually something is bound to break. GM's powertrain is VERY STRONG. Go take a good look under a prius with 50k miles and you probably will see some oil seepage coming out of the pan or valve cover gaskets. It's impossible to prevent stuff from leakning or breaking as age factor comes to play. My truck leaks oil all over the place. It's not because of GM's quality but just a pat of age. Almost 10 years old and 350,000 miles.

So, You want to talk about quality?
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Now, I'm not bashing Toyota but they have there own issues right now and recalls as well.

You make it sound like your car will never develop a problem in the future. Eventually it will and you can't prevent it. You can delay it by doing preventative maintenence.

 

Do you seriously think I'm gonna read some BS posted on Consumer Reports website? They are the most biased vehicle reviewer ever!

Guess where the components were made for that 350z especially your window regulators? Japan perhaps?

Yes, My truck does leak oil. I think I loose about a quart bewteen oil change intervals. But, It's 10 years old and 350,000 miles it's going to happen! But you know what? I bought a new 08 Silverado yesterday and I plan to keep both trucks. I will be pulling my oil pan off this week on the S-10 and replacing the gasket. Heck, Im gonna even replace the clutch and oil cooler lines. Quality is what has gotten my truck to this mile marker. But, It's gonna be retired to an off road truck in a year. I plan to lift it and modify it a bit for competition.

Every few cars might develop early problems and thats just the luck of the draw. Each vehicle is different and a machine might not properly tighten a bolt or miss something in the assembly line.

We have a few guys out at post that have Duramax Diesel Silverado's with 600,000 miles on them. Most diesels will see 1 million miles before needing a engine overhaul. Of course, It's different for cars powered with diesels as they typical only get 300,000 miles or so before a rebuild.

It's like I said before, All vehicles will develop issues as they get older but it seems you don't want to accept it.

Prius Issues-
Prius Problems Traced to Software Glitch

Consumer complaints about Toyota Prius

The Toyota Prius 'Recall' - Popular Mechanics

2005 Toyota Prius STEERING:ELECTRIC POWER ASSIST SYSTEM Recall at Automotive.com

2005 Toyota Prius AIR BAGS Recall at Automotive.com

 

Jimmie, did you read the definition of Troll I posted for you earlier?

 

Settle for shit because the salesman is a suck and you think we Toyota owners are stupid?ound: Toyota don't need to offer discounts, their prices are realistic on the sticker not inflated to allow discounts.
Funniest post I have read this week. Do you think they treat you special because you were in the armed forces? If you had shown your cat owners club members card and asked for a discount you would likely have faired as well.

Is Jimmie84 really Malorn?

 

I am certainly beginning to think so, as his points have gradually shown to be the same as malorn's. And his debate style is the same, cherry pick information, ignore questions when convenient and misconstrue what others are saying.

Even if he isn't, I am firmly convinced he is a troll and not worth the effort.

 

He never called me a Troll. Iasked in my thread of introduction what a Troll was and he responded. I'm pretty sure he was just wondering if I saw his response.

 

So why are you using so much middle eastern oil in your Silverado or what ever gas sucking pig you choose to drive?

If you did 300,000 miles in an imported Prius at $3.50 per gallon rather than a Silverado made by the good old boys in the USA.
Silverado uses 20mpg (EPA) Highway
Prius uses 45mpg (EPA) Highway
so over 300,000 miles you spend $53,500 on middle eastern oil in a silverado but driving a Prius over the same distance you only send $23,333.33 to Iraq, so about $30,300 less to the Taliban war effort.

I used highway consumption figures because that favours the Silverado to give a best case scenario.

 

Well, Not to burst your bubble but it is my right to drive as I wish. Secondly I have a use for my trucks.
Here is where the U.S.A. gets it's oil from.
1. Canada
2. Mexico
3. Saudi Arabia
4. Venezuela
5. Nigeria
6. Angola
7. Iraq
8. Algeria
9. United Kingdom
10. Brazil

MOST of our oil comes from Canada (BP) and Venezuela.

Source- Where does the U.S. get their oil from?

So, Maybe you need to do some research before spilling your beans when we don't even do business with Terrorists. We kill them.

Now, I'm in the US Army so My new Silverado won't cost me much to drive. I'm doing very good financially and it does not bother me to pay $3.50 a gallon. We lowered the interest rate and trying to divert a recession so that is why gas prices are high amongst plenty of other things.

People always try to single out gas without looking at the whole issue.

 

I'm not expressing my views on a truck site, someone came to a Prius site and started on about his truck.
BTW, all the oil from those other contries is imported too. They are as much the enemy as Japan who I believe have been friends of the USA for over 50 years.

Thanks, an interesting read, especially the first paragaph or 2.

If there are no terrorists in Iraq why are you there?
I think the only reason your not in Saudi is too much US oil comes from there to cause disruptions there.

 

So, because YOU can afford to waste gas, it's no big deal. The american way, eh? We've got our God given right to waste the world's dwindling commodity, now that we've blown most of our fuel reserves. If ME ME ME can afford it, that's all that matters. Today I can afford it, and I'll worry about tomorrow when it gets here. Let the next generation figure it out, when fuel cost go to $5 and then $10 per gallon. Only you forgot something. The fuel costs filter through EVERYTHING. Fuel costs are the new financial currency. Fuel cost mean that construction / manufacturing goodies all cost more. So eventually, all the WallMart stuff will be tripple the cost, simply because it cost 3X more to deliver it, and 3X more to make it. It's because of narrow "I can afford it" thinking that we're entering into a new era. Our grandkids will spit on this generation's graves, or thank us, depending on what we do, or don't do. And if the entire world of drivers thought like you (I can afford it") then our upcoming crisis would even be worse, quicker. I hope that soon, the "I can afford it" crowd will consider a little more insight.

 

I just got back from Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Do you know what they pay for gas over there? $0.91

Venezuela? $0.12

Why? They depend on there OWN resources. They drill for there own oil and turn into liquid gold baby. They don't depend on foreign countries like we do.

Answer for us? Start drilling here and refining it and it will go down considerably in price.

Maybe the good old USA should restructure NAFTA & ect. and start drilling to support ourselves.:clap2:

 

Maybe Germany and France should drill for their own oil too.

Maybe India will start drilling their fast oil fields. And Japan.

And maybe we'll invade Canada and steal their oil before Canadian Terrorists threaten to make us all speak French.

 

No need to steal it. Just drill it!

 

Dude, this is utter crap. I am in the Army too, and I m currently shopping online for a Prius. I have contacted eight dealerships in my target area and told them up front that I am in Korea with the Army and returning soon, and that I will not buy until I return. Five of eight dealerships thanked me for my service right at the first contact email they sent me. If an individual Toyota dealership is not thanking you for your service has nothing to do with the brand Toyota or their individual patriotism. Many Toyotas are made in the US, putting money in American hands, while many "American cars" are made in Mexico, Canada, taking jobs outside our country, but are accompanied by the whole Red White and Blues patriotic fanfare, as if they were 100% American.

Also, don't expect people to treat you nice just because you're in the service. I don't know if you are lower enlisted, NCO or officer, but the NCO Creed says "I will not use my grade or position to attain pleasure, profit, or personal safety", and that is what I live by. It does not mean you cannot get the military discounts and preferential if the give it to you, just do not expect it.

 

They also hire migrant workers from third world countries at $50-$100 dollars a month to do the drilling, they get paid crap to harvest the oil. How much do you think an oil drill worker gets in the Gulf States? It's one of the most dangerous jobs in the US and the payment is very good... If we drilled our own oil it would be a lot more expensive then Saudi or Venezuelan oil.