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Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by bredekamp, Mar 10, 2008.

  1. bredekamp

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    I see ads all over the Internet. Stuff like "convert your car to run on water" and "Drive your car with water". Hands up! Who believes that nonsense?

    Save Gas Use Water

    Bad science. I just want to cry when I see crap like this. I guess there really IS a sucker born every minute.
     
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    If you do cry, be sure to save your tears; I read on the internet that you can reduce your gas consumption . . .
     
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    Hey, I read that too. It must be true if we both read it. :D
     
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    TJandGENESIS Are We Having Fun Yet?

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    If it's on the internets, it's always trues. :ranger:
     
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    As I recall they tested one of these jobs on Mythbusters and it made no difference. What did make a difference was when they injected pure H2 from a tank into the engine. It also caused a small explosion.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Tears alone won't work. You have to run them through a special magnet first.
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    My car runs on water:

    Water falls out of the sky and some of it lands in the Columbia River drainage basin where it flows downhill to the river and eventually reaches the Bonneville Dam, upriver from Portland, OR, on the OR/WA state line. At the dam the water turns turbines that generate electricity which goes through wires, some of which come to Spokane Valley, WA. Some of that electricity comes to my house, and some of that goes through wires to my Zap Xebra electric car, to charge the batteries. I drive the car and then plug it in again.

    My car runs on water! :car:

    As for those ads on the internet, well, there's a sucker born every minute and two con artists to lighten his wallet. There's also pills and gadgets on the internet to make your you-know-what bigger, and lots of other interesting, if not very credible advertising. Hey, it's the internet!
     
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    daniel is apparently filling in for Darrell for this thread.
    :smug: <= how come that emoticon's not here?

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    Gotta give the guy a day off now and then. :)
     
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    You convert your car to run on water.

    Steam.

    Of course, what you use to heat the boiler is another matter.
     
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    patsparks An Aussie perspective

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    Incorrect!!
    Your car is solar powered.
    The sun hits the earth warming its surface including the surface of the sea
    The water is warmed and some evaporates.
    The water vapor rises into the atmosphere due to the warming of the sun
    at the right level the water vapor cools to form tiny droplets
    These droplets form larger droplets and fall to the earth, some falls on the Columbia River drainage basin where it flows downhill ...

    Water is not a fuel it is the carrier just a collector, part of the machine.
     
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    Picky, picky!!!

    Actually, I could say my car is thermonuclear-powered, since that's how the sun generates sunlight.

    I think it's fair, though, to say that my car is hydroelectric-powered, so I'm sticking with water.

    After all, gasoline is also just a "carrier" for solar energy. Except for the radioactive decay of uranium, thorium, and potassium inside the Earth, all our energy "sources" are really just carriers of solar energy.

    H2 is just a carrier because it cannot be mined or extracted, but must be produced artificially from some other source of energy. Petroleum, however, can be extracted (while it lasts) so that it is a primary source of energy, even though it is in another sense a carrier of solar.

    If you use another source of energy to pump water uphill, and then extract the energy from it as it flows back down, it becomes a secondary source, or a carrier. But when natural processes do the "pumping" it becomes, for our purposes, a primary source which can be extracted via hydroelectric dams. Actually, though my car is called "electric," the electricity is just a carrier, since it must be produced from coal, or oil, or wind, or photovoltaics, or (in my case) water.

    Petroleum and hydro are analogous: both come from the sun, but if a car can be called gas-powered, then my Xebra can be called water-powered, as long as it gets its electrons from the Bonneville dam.
     
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    How are we going to power our cars when the sun burns out? :eek:

    We're all screwed when that happens. ;)
     
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    sorry, double post

    site seems to be kinda slow lately
     
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    Ever heard of a six-stroke engine?

    Crower six stroke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It uses steam. At least this stuff is based on REAL science and not :flypig: science.
     
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    The sun will engulf the Earth, incinerating it, before it "burns out." This is expected to happen in a few billion years. "We" will be long gone before that happens.
     
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    Does that mean we won't be able to drive our cars anymore? ;)
     
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    No, we will depart the Earth in Space Utility Vehicles - you can figure out what that is for short. ;)
     
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    Well there is a little reality to it.

    Here is a website on alternative energy.

    Practical Guide to Free-Energy Devices

    It's alot of reading. But there are lots of exact diagrams of these devices that work. And it's all free to read and some materials cost to make.

    Some people doubt some believe. Stan Myer was close to running a car on water and he was murdered, poisoned actually. Yep some people didn't believe it would be possible to get a plane to fly. I'm not discounting any of it. There is something to all this type or energy. I for one would love to be able to use water or even the engine that runs on 5 inert gases (these gases are NOT consumed) How would you like to drive your vehicle and not have to fuel for maybe 10 years?

    All I can say is keep your options open for these new break throughs.
    Keep your sense and sensability.

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    I'm all for alternative energy and have an open mind, but sometimes people really just get the wrong end of the stick.