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Chevy Volt to only be released to select markets?

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Danny, Apr 8, 2008.

  1. C.RICKEY HIROSE

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    TidelandPrius,

    Actually, when Ford took the THS I apart and reverse-engineered and bend and straigthen the Toyota system and finally they built it. Its design came so similar to Toyota's patented Hybrid Powertrain,

    Toyota wanted to give Ford a deal, Toyota said to Ford, look if we take you to arbitrate-sue, you are going to lose. We at Toyota always said, will license THS technology free to any adopters. So use it free but I need your "Fuel advanced injector's patent free. and Ford agreed, everybody happy.

    Nissan's Hybrid technology is a bit different, Altima uses 4 cylinder of similar displacement as the CH so the Gen II THS was the one given to Nissan. But Now Toyota owns majority of Fuji heavy industries.
    Previously, Nissan was the major stock holder of the same.

    Now Toyota is building Camrys in the US at the Subaru owned plant in Indiana..Again every body happy...
     
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    The bean-counters in GM are waking up again trying to kill Volt to prevent loss. Like Prius to Toyota, Volt will have to be sold by GM at a loss initially to gain market traction. If GM cannot bear with this painful period, GM might as well calling it quit ASAP. No pain, no gain.
    Too bad, Volt might be the 1st GM product I will buy....:(
     
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    Actually Toyota got it's initial stake in Fuji Heavy Industries by buying out GM's part. They recently just added another 5% thus becoming the major shareholder.
     
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    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Interesting... thanks for the info hirose.
     
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    I doubt that Nissan's licensing of Toyota's hybrid technology had much (if anything) to do w/Nissan's small stake in Fuji Heavy Industries (maker of Subarus).

    GM To Buy Nissan Stake in Fuji Heavy - International Pages - Brief Article | Autoparts Report | Find Articles at BNET.com from 2000 mentions "General Motors Corp. is buying Nissan Motor Co.'s stake in Japan's Fuji Heavy Industries as part of its previously-disclosed plan to take a 20 percent share of the maker of Subaru cars.

    GM will buy Nissan's 4.1 percent stake in Fuji Heavy for an undisclosed sum, the companies said in a statement. The rest of the stake GM plans to buy in Fuji Heavy will come from the purchase of $1.05 billion worth of new shares Fuji Heavy will issued this month, the U.S. automaker said."
     
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    Huh. The Volt will be released only in a select market AND be way overpriced.

    I remember when I first heard about the Volt, my first comment was "The question isn't will GM screw this up - the question is HOW will GM screw this up?"

    Well, there's your answer!
     
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    It's at least 2 yrs away. I wouldn't take much of anything being said as gospel. Thrusts and parries maybe. Coded messages maybe. Blantant humping maybe.
     
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    Unless I totally forgot how the stock issuance process works, new shares don't dilute prior ownership ratios ... right? Kind of like a stock split? say for example your company stock is based on only 10 shares ... and you own 5. So when the 10 become 1000, you now have 500.

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    That was 8 yrs ago. Since then GM has sold it to Toyota and now this results....

    Toyota Buys Last Of GM Subaru Stock - New Sports Car Will Have Subaru Engine - GM Inside News Forum
     
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    A stock split is different than issuance of new shares. When a stock splits everyone's proportional ownership of the company remains unchanged. All it does is make it easier to buy and sell in smaller dollar amounts.

    But when new shares are issued, all the old owners now own a smaller portion of the company than they did before.

    Say there are 100 shares outstanding and you own 10. You own 10% of the company. If it splits to 200 shares, you now own 20 shares, but still 10% of the company. But if now the company issues 200 new shares to raise capital, your 20 shares are now only 5% of the company. But it's a company with more capital, and if the managers are competent, the dollar value of your holding should remain unchanged.

    Now let's say you are partners with your sister in a company. There are two shares and you each own one and have equal say in the running of the company. But she convinces you that your company needs capital and should issue another share to raise that money, and her boyfriend buys that share. Now you only own 1/3 of the company and your sister and her boyfriend can outvote you, kick you off the board, quit issuing dividends, and use the entire company profit to pay themselves big salaries. That can't happen with a stock split the way it can with an issue of new shares.

    If enough new shares are issued, it can change the balance of control of a company.