1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Hot rod Prius at the push of a button?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by RinMI, May 9, 2008.

?
  1. Yes, I would like the option of running in performance mode vs. efficiency mode

    50.6%
  2. No, I would not like this option

    17.2%
  3. The car is perfect, what were you thinking even posting this poll

    32.2%
  1. RinMI

    RinMI New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2007
    132
    0
    0
    Location:
    SW Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Excerpt from NY Times article
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/movies/08hybr.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
    "According to a Toyota spokeswoman the Prius goes from zero to 60 miles per hour in 10.1 seconds, but could go faster if, like the Lexus hybrid, it were tuned for performance rather than efficiency."

    So Toyota spokepersons are admitting that the Prius, on it's own is capable of much more without mechanical modification. Now, I'm left wondering how many Prius owners would like to see a button on the dash that would allow us to go from Efficiency Mode to Performance Mode. Let's have a poll:

    Would you be interested in having a (push button?) option to run your Prius in a performance mode instead of the current efficiency mode at your discretion?
     
  2. thecoook

    thecoook Junior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    38
    0
    0
    Location:
    Sanford, FL
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    The only performance enhancement that I would like to see is a plug-in. If we're gonna beat big oil, you need to use LESS. Oh, and this pretty Blue Marble we're all on is the only one for many miles around.
     
  3. rpiereck

    rpiereck Regenerator

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2008
    289
    3
    0
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    I'd like to see a plug in option AND a performance button on the dash. I do like speed as much as I like fuel efficiency, and if I have the option to have one or the other at the push of a button then yes, I want it! I'd leave it on economy for daily driving and switch to performance only occasionally.
     
  4. Flying White Dutchman

    Flying White Dutchman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    4,374
    313
    0
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    i want to see less performance en even better mpg
     
  5. richard schumacher

    richard schumacher shortbus driver

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    7,663
    1,038
    0
    Location:
    United States
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I'd pay $100 for such a button, assuming that in performance mode it acted in a fashion consistent with CAFE requirements.
     
  6. patsparks

    patsparks An Aussie perspective

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    10,664
    567
    0
    Location:
    Adelaide South Australia
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    When someone says a car is tuned for economy rather than performance they aren't talking about something you can change on the fly necessarily. They are talking things like valve size, duration and lift, cam timing (the inlet cam timing is variable not the exhaust timing), manifold size and length, compression ratio, crankshaft offset(in Atkinson cycle engine), exhaust pipe and mufflers. The things that can be changed are ignition timing, mixture, and inlet timing. Lexus hybrids are equipped for performance but still get better economy than equivalent conventionally powered vehicles with bigger valves, more lift, shorter more open inlet manifold and exhaust primaries, more open mufflers etc.
     
  7. bac

    bac Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2008
    863
    52
    0
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    You want LESS performance?

    ... Brad
     
  8. Spectra

    Spectra Amphi-Prius

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2008
    3,123
    17
    1
    Location:
    S NJ
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Hear! hear! -- or is it -- here! here!

    Not to mention the Spectra blue marbles ...
     
  9. Flying White Dutchman

    Flying White Dutchman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    4,374
    313
    0
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    yes
    less HP to me means less fuel
    and irl i don't use a lot of the current power of the prius
    is more than fast enough for mee.. More then fast enough
     
  10. Bill Merchant

    Bill Merchant absit invidia

    Joined:
    May 3, 2005
    4,096
    81
    13
    Location:
    USA | Oregon | Portland area | 97004 |
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    I just want to have a button to eliminate the stupid pseudo-autotranny creep and drag. I would love to be able to sit at a stop light without having to mash the brake pedal to keep the car from trying to creep forward. I would love to accelerate up to speed, take my foot off the go-pedal, and glide until tire and air resistance slowed me. I don't want more performance, I want better performance to get more fuel efficiency.
     
  11. bac

    bac Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2008
    863
    52
    0
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    I think what you meant to say was that you'll sacrifice performance in terms of power for performance in terms of better fuel economy. I think a lot of us appreciate that thought. However, all else being equal, I'm assuming that you'd take more power. In other words, you'd prefer an auto with 150hp that gets 50mpg over an auto with 50hp that gets the same 50mpg. Right?

    More power just for safety reasons makes a lot of sense to me. Just like better brakes/handling/airbags/crumple zones/etc for safety reasons makes sense to me.

    ... Brad
     
  12. Flying White Dutchman

    Flying White Dutchman Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2007
    4,374
    313
    0
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    yes
     
  13. slvr_phoenix

    slvr_phoenix Tinker Gnome

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2006
    84
    2
    0
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Personally, I want to see an official Toyota "plug-in" Prius, with even faster electrical motors. (Or using them more. Or whatever.) And then also with a more powerful ICE. The heavy use of a large plug-in battery would still leave a much better "gas" fuel economy than our existing Prius design. And, of course, we'd get a heck of a lot more vrooooom.

    Still, all of this does no good so long as Toyota continues to use such crappy tires on the Prius. All vroom and no stick just makes squealing and smoke.
     
  14. NYPrius1

    NYPrius1 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2007
    1,181
    125
    0
    Location:
    Middletown, NY
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    More MPG's PLEASE ! :preggers:
     
  15. Sheepdog

    Sheepdog C'Mere Sheepie!

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2008
    1,125
    15
    9
    Location:
    Sanford FLorida
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    II
    the car already has 300 ft lbs of torque! That is the same as my old Expedition V8 for crying out loud! If you romp it the Pri is a race car now! But the mpg drop like a rock!

    Nope. More mpg no more performance needed. plug ins desired.
     
  16. V8Cobrakid

    V8Cobrakid Green Handyman

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2004
    3,790
    152
    0
    Location:
    Park View, Los Angeles, CA. U.S.A
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    i wouldn't mind a button that would torque out the electric motors for a short amount of time.. or depending on soc.
     
  17. iSamurai

    iSamurai New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2007
    15
    0
    0
    If you want a performance car get a Tesla..Prius was never meant, and will never be a performance car.
     
  18. Presto

    Presto Has his homepage set to PC

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2005
    1,326
    24
    0
    Location:
    Vancouver, BC
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius

    Ah, but the Prius is a performer, with the right equipment. There's some of us who'd like to squeeze every bit of potential out of this hatchback. There's already a bunch of handling mods to rip the Prius around a corner a lot faster. The low-end torque helps greatly with the exit speeds through the apex, and the VSC helps keeps the Prius on the road when driven near the edge of its grip. I'm all-in for a toggle that would give more power at the cost of fuel ecomony. :cool:
     
  19. RinMI

    RinMI New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2007
    132
    0
    0
    Location:
    SW Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    I for one would love to see what this vehicle is actually capable of if all of it's potential was uncorked. Not that one has to use it all the time, or ever for that matter. There are many cars on the road that have very impressive capabilities and those capabilities are never used by the owners. So far the poll is showing that the interest is there. As advanced as this car is, why not explore all of its possibilities, not just the fuel efficiency one. Truthfully, I propose that the utmost potential in this car is in the electrical aspect of it, not in the fossil fuel part. People have already done upgrades to the ICE portion and the results were very minimal. If one could firgure out how to get the car to allow the electric motors to use their full potential, or even upgrade the motor(s) the results could be amazing. With 300 ft-lbs of torque, this thing should be a rocket off the line and we all know that it is anything but. It is fast enough for me, but I must admit it would be fun to see a V8 pickup truck guys jaw drop when a Prius launched from a green light and blew their doors off. It would truly be the ultimate sleeper.
     
  20. PriusSport

    PriusSport senior member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2008
    1,498
    88
    0
    Location:
    SE PA
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    With CVT and that big electric low-end torque, clearly electric is the way to go for race cars in the near distant future. But the Prius is not a race car. It's plenty quick for a passenger car, more like a V6 that gets 50 mpg.
    That won't prevent the marketing wonks at Toyota from coming up with a performance model at some point. Everything seems to evolve bigger and more powerful--but within carbon/mpg limits now.