Hydro 4000 - but does it work on a hybrid?

I'm not sure about this one. If it truly does work, I think that the biggest benefit you will see is that your battery will be fully charged more often. So far, anytime someone has modified the gasoline part of the hybrid synergy drive, they have only noted minor gains if any. My personal theory is that the secret of getting more performance out of a Prius lies in the electric motor and the computer programming that controls how the car behaves. Even Toyota has alluded to the fact that the Prius could be faster and more powerful if they were to change the computer to run the car for best performance instead of highest efficiency.

 

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I'll wait until I see results from an independent, scientific, and controlled test environment before I make any conclusions.

 

The article says:

"... we found that even with an oil change, clean air filter and proper tire
pressure, we were averaging roughly 9.4 miles to the gallon.

"We then ran our truck on the street for close to a month with the Hydro-
4000 running. The owners said this would give the device time to clean out
the engine. We then put our vehicle back on the dynamometer, and did the
same test all over again.

"And guess what? With the device on, we were now averaging 23.2 miles to
the gallon. That's 61% better than the gas mileage we were previously getting.

"We also road tested the device. There we averaged 16-point-one miles to
the gallon, which is 58% better than before."

How do they get the 61% and 58% improvement figures? These alleged
improvements are substantial, but the numbers don't work:

23.2 MPG/9.4 MPG = 2.46, 146% improvement -- now that's unbelievable.
16.1 MPG/9.4 MPG = 1.71, 71% improvement. -- possible, but improbable.

Where do their numbers come from? Am I missing something?

Or do I smell a rat?

 

Every time one of these comes around it all winds up pointing
back to "pureenergysystems" and PESwiki with all the "magnetic
motor" nonsense and other really-wanna-believe-it newidge crap
with hundreds of illiterate comments from the gullible. How
many red flags does it take? If ANY of this worked, we wouldn't
have a forum all about Priuses.
.
_H*

 

I will say it again: You cannot improve gas mileage with electrolysis if the energy for electrolysis comes from the ICE. Period. It's against the laws of physics.

Read all about it here

 

yes but what if the hydrogen actually help the burning of gas, that means improve the efficiency of gas use.
if we then can use a part of the energy that was lost before and that this part is greater than the energy used to make the hydrogen, wouldn't it work...

 

If you were producing excess oxygen you might have a valid point to make. But, you're not.

 

gosh and none of the major car manufacturers have bought up the patent so they could instantaneously increase their fleet mileage??? i wonder what consumer reports says.

 

Can anyone smell that?
Is it Hydrogen and oxygen?
no, I don't think it is.
Maybe it's compost?
Is it a cow? no that isn't it.
I know, it's faeces! I can smell Faeces!
but not only that, I believe it came from a male bovine.



Does that sound like bull sh** to you? :target:

How big an ad was the program carrying for this thing?

 

If they claimed that H2 making the fuel burn "cleaner" improved the mpg by one or two percent, I'd say maybe it's plausible. But the claim of 60% improvement is not plausible.

Fred hit the nail on the head. Maybe the Big Three are more interested in selling gasoline than building more efficient cars, but if this thing worked, the Japanese would be putting it in their cars.

It's a scam. And not a new one either. We've seen versions of this before. There was a guy who claimed his system (essentially the same as this) would give a Hummer 100 mpg. And there's a guy who runs a gas genset to make electricity for hydrolysis to run a welding torch so he doesn't have to buy acetylene. He buys gasoline for the genset instead.

 

Pure unadulterated snake oil. All of these posts about gas mileage gizmos make me think our school systems have failed the public by not teaching basic science. More likely people are desperate to believe that something, anything, will save them from high fuel prices. If you buy into these mileage boosters, then I have a fund in Nigeria that will pay you a big, BIG return if you help me move it out of the country...

Tom

 

How about installing it first on a portable generator? You can then compare and contrast run-times on a known load. If the device works as claimed, you'll have clear objective numbers and won't be putting a $25k Prius at risk.

Bob Wilson

 

It's pure bulldada. A car that could benefit from this system badly needs a tuneup, not an aftermarket gizmo.

 

Tom

Sadly, I have to agree with this. Despite all the school funding, all the gadgets in the classroom, it appears we have turned out a few generations of simpletons

Don't get me wrong, I don't expect every man, woman, and child to have proficiency with college calculus.

This is also a reflection of where our society is headed: a strong and growing belief in the supernatural, hocus-pocus, mystical imaginary friends in the sky, distrust of anything "factual," a level of ignorance and fear actually encouraged by the gov, and overall a reversion to a previous time. What next, burning people at the stake for witchcraft?

You might find this hard to believe - or perhaps it has actually happened to you as well - but I have entered into heated arguments at diners with ignorant folks. They have seen me typing away at my laptop, or thumbing away at my Blackberry, which alone tends to draw some nuts

For some reason these folks purport to be "religious" and go on and on about how all our technology is actually the work of Satan. How electricity cannot "work" as everybody claims, as we are "obviously" creating energy!

Oy!!

And you wonder why I had no choice but to turn to heavy drinking?

jay

 

:frusty:

 

Tom

I don’t recommend abusing your prefrontal cortex in that manner. You could soon forget all of grad school. Trust me on this, heavy drinking is the way to go. It also helps when tax time rolls around

Although you will probably end up with a liver that essentially occupies most of the space from clavicle to ileum

jay