1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Easy ways to save on your power bill - please share yours...

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by TimBikes, Jun 8, 2008.

  1. TimBikes

    TimBikes New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2005
    2,492
    245
    0
    Location:
    WA
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    I thought I might share a few easy ways I've found to save on my power bill - but I bet there are a lot of others I'm not thinking about. Let me know if you have any good ones.

    Some of mine:

    • Put TV / entertainment center as well as digital picture frames all on wall switched outlets and turn off at wall when not in use
    • Fluorescent bulbs in the most frequently used lights
    • Outside lights on timer
    • In decorative lights (outside) - unscrewed two out of 3 bulbs in each fixture
    • Reduced the "on hours" of outside lighting by changing timers and switching on manually controlled lights later in the evening
    • Use power strips, particularly for anything with a transformer
    • Use toaster oven instead of big oven to heat up small meals (we have a Krups that will even hold about a 12 inch pizza)
    • Replaced frequently used halogen light torchieres with flourescent
    • Put PCs in standby or hibernate when not in use
    • Minimize use of bathroom lights above mirrors (ours have eight 60 watt bulbs!)
    • Only leave battery chargers plugged in when actually charging batteries
    • Don't use AC
    • Constantly bitch at my kids to turn off the lights!
     
  2. hiremichaelreid

    hiremichaelreid New Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    451
    6
    0
    Location:
    Ottawa/Aylmer, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    I
    Make ALL indoor lights fluorescent or compact fluourescent. Then when you calculate the cost of kids leaving a light on for 8 hours, you may reallize bitching only makes you angry... :) Worked for me.

    I was planning to switch from oil for winter heat to hydro-electric. I think that will cut my heating costs to 40-50% of oil. BUT I'm looking to cut that cost an additional factor by using a geo-thermal heat pump to heat and cool the house. Cost maybe $15,000 and Fed Gov't in Canada will rebate me a few thousand I think...

    My heating bill currently in area of $2,000 per year; perhaps it would be $3,000 next winter with price of oil. So with geo-therm I'm should be able to run it for $1,000 or less per year in electricity (Not sure exactly yet)... Environment friendliness is a nice bonus...
     
  3. isisdave

    isisdave Junior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2008
    18
    1
    0
    Location:
    Murrieta CA
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Consider the biggest power-suckers you own first.

    1. Air conditioning ... tune-up for older units? I don't think it's cost-effective to replace older units until they're dying; the price difference on hi-SEER ones is still too high.

    Can you use a whole-house fan, or even ceiling fans, instead, at least some of the time? An attic fan will also help take heat out of your attic in the evening, so it won't continue to radiate into your house.

    2. Do you have an extra refrigerator in your (120-degree) garage? If you don't have six kids, you probably don't need one. Freezers are less expensive somehow, as long as you rarely open them.

    3. Do you have a swimming pool? I found that mine had a 2-hp motor!! The pool guy said that 1-hp was plenty for my pool. Also there are now variable-speed or some-such motors that are even better, and your utility may give a rebate to switch. Also, how many hours are you running it? Why that many, because you always did? Try reducing, especially in winter if you need to run it then.

    4. I'm threatening to get one of those controllers that detect whether anyone is in a room and use it on the (350-watt!!) television. Some days I turn that thing off five times when no one is in the room.
     
  4. Godiva

    Godiva AmeriKan Citizen

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2005
    10,339
    14
    0
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Some of mine:

    • I don't use digital picture frames. I don't have outlets off of wall switches so I unplug anything not in use.
    • I use compact fluorescents everywhere I can.
    • My outside garage light is motion activated. It shuts off after a few minutes.
    • My outdoor yard lights are solar.
    • Unplug anything with a transformer I'm not using.
    • Ceiling fans instead of AC.
    • I use the microwave instead of the gas oven when possible.
    • Insulated attic.
    • Installed programmable thermostat
    • Installed Photovoltaic system sized for my use so end of year bill should be around.....$0.
     
  5. Godiva

    Godiva AmeriKan Citizen

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2005
    10,339
    14
    0
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    1. I have an energy saver AC with a timer.

    I have an attic fan. I'll be installing more insulation to the roof of the attic. The floor of the attic (ceiling of the house) is already insulated.

    2. I have a coffin freezer in the garage to help me in buying in bulk. Replaced my kitchen refrigerator with an energy star. It has the freezer in a bottom drawer rather than the top.

    3. No pool.

    4. I live alone so I shut off anything when I leave the room. I also walk through the house in the dark at night so I don't have to turn on lights.
     
  6. patsparks

    patsparks An Aussie perspective

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    10,664
    567
    0
    Location:
    Adelaide South Australia
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Pool pump on a timer, only run pump 2 hours per day summer and 1 hour every 2 days in winter.
    Solar pool blanket no heater. Aquatain Liquid Pool Blanket used in peak season to reduce heat loss and evaporation and minimise solar blanket handling hassles
    All light fitted with compact fluros even downlights and dimmable fixtures
    LCD TV rather than plasma
    Evaporative air conditioning with draught stopper baffle
    Ceiling fans used before air conditioner
    Natural gas flueless heater, 5 star rating only in living room
    4 star upside down fridge
    all fluro lights in garage including in auto garage door openers
    no heat unless everyone has a jumper and socks on
    Rock wool insulation in all external walls
    Recycled paper insulation in ceiling
    Automatic shutdown power board on PC equipment. Turns off all except main outlet if main outlet is drawing only standby current http://www.coolgreen.com.au/product.asp?pID=350&cID=27
    Switch off ADSL modem over night, this isn't on automatic powerboard to allow wireless access when main PC is off.
    Solar garden lights
    Dry clothes on a under cover clothes line in courtyard
    Hot water heater set to 65 degrees Celsius

    Soon I'll have gas boosted solar hot water
    Seriously considering an expandable 1kw/H PV solar installation depending on financial position in a few months
     
  7. FL_Prius_Driver

    FL_Prius_Driver Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2007
    4,319
    1,527
    0
    Location:
    Tampa Bay
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    I
    I have been using the following to figure out what I am paying for:
    T.E.D. : Electricity Monitor, Energy Monitor, Power Monitor

    Here are some of the unexpected energy draws:

    1) Frigging Doorbell - Soon to be pulled.
    2) An unexpected TV antenna amplifier in the attic. Previous Owner planned on a TV in every room. Got rid of that heating element.
    3) Still trying to figure out why my AC takes 10 Watts when completely off. In the meantime, AC circuit breaker gets opened in non-AC months.
    4) Still hunting down some mystery loads on circuit breaker L9B.
    5) Automatic Garage Door Opener is a useless draw a lot of the time.
    6) Identified biggest lighting draw is in the Kitchen. That will be first area to get LED lighting.

    However, at the end of the day, figuring out how to do AC with vastly less power is a moral imperative (here in FL).
     
  8. brick

    brick Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2006
    1,083
    78
    0
    Location:
    Upstate NY
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I have a magnetic induction element that I use for small, single-pot/pan meals. The heat is generated in the cookware itself so very little energy is lost to the environment without getting some work out of it. It saves double since less heat in the house also means less heat that has to be removed by the A/C system (which is set to 79F).

    Ceiling fans are great, too. We didn't have to turn on the central air until last week, and I've heard compressors running in the neighborhood for the last month.
     
  9. galaxee

    galaxee mostly benevolent

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    9,810
    465
    0
    Location:
    MD
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    if you use a dishwasher, turn off the heat dry setting. i also turn it off when it hits the dry setting and open it up to let them air dry overnight. (always at night, too hot during the day and don't want to add to the a/c load)

    here's a big one- make sure your dryer vent is clear! in our last apartment, it was very clogged. here it is clear, and the clothes take 1/3 the time to dry. imagine all the wasted energy.
     
  10. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    44,899
    16,123
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Tim, I would even go so far to say shower in the day (esp. in the summer) to avoid usnig the lights in the first place. Depending on where you live, it's still bright at 7, 8 or even 9pm.
     
  11. patsparks

    patsparks An Aussie perspective

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    10,664
    567
    0
    Location:
    Adelaide South Australia
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Blocked dryers start fires!
     
  12. traugu

    traugu Rebel Tree Hugger

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    44
    0
    0
    Location:
    CT
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    run ac (need to run b/c of dog with cancer) on power save auto shuts off when reaches desired temp
    dry clothes on a line
    blinds are closed during the day to keep the heat and sunlight out
     
  13. Godiva

    Godiva AmeriKan Citizen

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2005
    10,339
    14
    0
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    I've got heat reducing film on the east, south and west facing windows, but I'd like to replace it will better stuff. I also installed an awning over my largest south facing window that has reduced sun (and heat).

    I clear the dryer vent on every load. Note: Check the mesh by running some water on it. If it beads up and rolls off, you need to wash it with soap and water as a build up of the dryer sheet chemicals have clogged up the little holes.

    I bought a retractable clothes line and will be installing it as soon as school is out.
     
  14. bee13

    bee13 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2005
    290
    0
    0
    Location:
    Utah
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Godiva,

    What's you PV capacity? Can you share a few pics?
     
  15. PriuStorm

    PriuStorm Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2007
    2,239
    149
    0
    Location:
    Davis, CA
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Good ideas, everyone... I use a lot of the ones already mentioned (dry clothes outside, air dry dishes in the dishwasher, fluorescents everywhere, etc.), and have just these two other pointers to add:
    - Bathroom strip lights... unscrew every other one (you can leave it in partially so there isn't an empty socket)... our strip has room for 7 bulbs, but even with just 2 fluorescents giving light, there's plenty of light because the mirrors reflect the light, making it seem brighter.
    - Install manual on occupancy sensors.. a recent master bathroom remodel required this per code and I'm so glad we have them. I have them set for 1 minute, which is the perfect time for the light to stay on when I get up during the night so I can see to get back into bed, and then the light goes off. :)
     
  16. galaxee

    galaxee mostly benevolent

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    9,810
    465
    0
    Location:
    MD
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    i meant the dryer vent to outside... i always clean the lint trap.
     
  17. cheeper

    cheeper Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2008
    154
    5
    1
    Location:
    Greene Co, NY
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Solar lights outside, there are even spot light ones.

    Last Christmas, I used solar lights on my tree inside; solar panels at window during the day.
     
  18. Zythryn

    Zythryn Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2008
    6,232
    4,228
    1
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    Insulated the house very very well.
    Geothermal for heat/AC with high efficiency furnace as backup.
    Those two factors gave us a heating bill this winter of $155 for the whole season (we live in Minnesota).
    Lots of south facing windows. On warm, sunny days all shades are down to minimize heating, in winter we leave them open to maximize passive heating.
    Combination of CFLs and LED lighting.
    All monitors/TVs are flat screen (most LCD) which saves bunches over CRTs.
     
  19. enerjazz

    enerjazz Energy+Jazz=EnerJazz

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    256
    144
    4
    Location:
    Fairview, TX
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    III
    I have quite a few tips for existing homes on my web site. It's biased toward a hot southern climate - Westbrook House See "Existing House Energy Tips."
     
  20. Rae Vynn

    Rae Vynn Artist In Residence

    Joined:
    May 21, 2007
    6,038
    707
    0
    Location:
    Tumwater, WA USA
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    When we remodeled, we put a timer switch on the main bathroom electric heater.
    Previous to this, the teens would walk in, crank up the heat, and then walk out, leaving the door open and often the exhaust fan running.

    Now, it shuts off after 30 minutes, automatically!

    You can get 15 minute timers, or other configurations, too, if this sort of thing would help.