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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by ualdriver, Jul 4, 2008.

  1. ualdriver

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    Hi-

    I created a .pdf file that is an illustrated guide to installing the DICE Silverline iPod unit. Unfortunately, when the editing program I used to create the file made the .pdf file, it made this thirteen page document 15.1mb in size. I was trying to upload it, but I get the following message:

    Your submission could not be processed because a security token was missing or mismatched.
    If this occurred unexpectedly, please
    inform the administrator and describe the action you performed before you received this error.

    Anyway, is there a way I can upload a 15.1mb .pdf file on the forum?

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  2. Bill Merchant

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    I am not an ADMIN in the A&E section, but I do have Acrobat Pro. If there isn't an easy way to upload, you could email it to me, I could reduce it's file size, and upload it for you or email it back. Pictures, which are important, take a lot of room.
     
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    Sounds good to me. Does Acrobat Pro allow you to take a .pdf file and make the file size smaller?

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    Yes, and to down-sample pictures to a readable/printable size.
     
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    Bill-

    I sent the 15mb file this morning to the e-mail address that you have at the bottom of all of your posts. Thanks for your help.

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    The first quick pass only got it down to a little over 11Mb. I'm still working on it.
     
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    Thanks Bill!
     
  8. TonyPSchaefer

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    Looks like you two are working this out.
     
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    Hi Tony-

    Are you an admin? If you are, is there a way to upload a 15mb .pdf to the audio and electronics forum? I made a .pdf file that might help people with their DICE install (pictures and text). When I try, I get an error message as stated on post#1 so I haven't had much luck.

    Bill was trying to make the file smaller, but I don't think he was able to make it small enough.

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  10. TonyPSchaefer

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    The Control Panel's showing that there's no limit to file size on PDFs. So that's odd.

    Let me ask: when you built the PDF, what was the format of the images you imported. Did you develop the PDF in Adobe or did you do it in something like Microsoft Word and then use something like Distiller or CuteFTP to convert it.

    I develop training and technical documentation and have some experience with large file sizes. If you describe the development process, perhaps we can work to streamline the original in order to further shrink it via PDF.
     
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    Tony, each page is an image, which makes the type very difficult to read. I think the PDF was created through a bit-mapping process, capturing printer bits. Yours were the same questions I asked ualdriver.
     
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    Hi Tony-

    I don't care to shrink the size of my final pdf product in particular. I just assumed I couldn't put it on the forum because it was too big as when I tried to upload it I got the error message in post #1. If you're an admin, I'll e-mail it to you if you want and perhaps you'll have more luck posting it.

    I created the original product in Broderbund PrintShop 20-something, but not the latest one. The Broderbund product allows you to create a 150dpi .pdf file from the Broderbund format. Since I assume few can read that type of file, I did a "save as" .pdf and it took my 1.7mb Broderbund file and turned it into a 15.7mb .pdf file. I also cut and pasted the pages into a Word 2003 document, but it was still just as big and loss some of the formatting.

    Anyway, that's where I am.

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    Try printing to "Adobe PDF" instead of saving directly out of the application to PDF. It's unlikely your application is sophisticated enough to do a real export to PDF. It likely just created full-size images for each page, and created a simple PDF document whose pages each consist of a single image.

    By printing to PDF, you have a chance of preserving all of the vector line art and text, which would likely give you a much smaller file size. OTOH, if your document is all full-page images, there probably isn't much that can be done to really get the document size down.
     
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    Unfortunately I am away from that computer for a couple of days, but what exactly does "printing to PDF do?" Will that make a PDF file somehow?

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    Well, technically what it does is print the document using the Adobe PostScript driver, and then run Acrobat Distiller in the background to convert it into PDF. But all most users need to know is that they have a printer called "Adobe PDF" (in recent versions of Acrobat), which, when they print to it, produces a PDF file.

    This will only make a difference if the printing path of the application draws the graphics differently than the PDF export path (I somehow missed previous posts which confirmed my suspicions about this application). If it prints by sending a full-page image to the print driver, it won't make any difference.
     
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    OK thanks. I'll give it a try when I get home.

    I guess, though, I'm still wondering why I am getting the error message from Post#1 when I try to upload the file. It seems like finding the solution to that problem may be easier than trying to shrink/modify the file.
     
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    Oh wait, unless you have Acrobat you won't be able to print to Distiller and create a PDF. The easiest thing might be to print to a PostScript file, and then ask someone with Acrobat to distill the file for you. In order to do that, you need to have at least one PostScript printer installed, and then check the "Print to file" option in the print dialog. There are also some free packages out there that utilize GhostScript to create a PDF for you, but they're not for the novice.
     
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    Bill-

    Are you able to post the file I sent you via e-mail to this forum? Maybe you can post it?

    Thanks,
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    If the OP doesn't have Adobe Acrobat he can always download/install something like PrimoPDF (a free PDF maker).
     
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    Thanks. I think I'm just going to try to recreate it in Word and repost.