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Hypermiling causes road rage?

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by orracle, Jul 14, 2008.

  1. Fibb222

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    It's a beautiful thing. It happens almost every time I'm on the road.
     
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    Does anyone remember hypermiling from the 1970s fuel shortage? When fuel wasn't just expensive, but it was being rationed?
     
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    orracle Whaddaya mean "senior" member?

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    I remember driving 55 to save fuel when the speed limit on a often traveled interstate was 70:rolleyes:

    And $3 limits on fill ups!! And lines!

    Too bad we didn't learn anything then.:mad:
     
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    They have a vehicle noise law in Burlington (Vermont) - no more than 85 decibels at 100 feet (I think). I've never heard of anyone actually being cited but I've heard a lot of big car stereos and Harleys that are way over.

    Like the speed limits, if they don't enforce it, it apparently isn't against the law.
     
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    Rybold, it sounds like I drive like you... hypermile only when safe. Just curious, what kind of mpg are you seeing over time?
     
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    I remember, although don't remember trying to hypermile. The difference between then and now is that then the Arabs cut us off. They're giving us plenty of oil this time, go figure. Somebody's making billions of dollars, funny nobody can figure out who :der:
     
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    I sure do!

    In the late 70's, I owned a brace of VW Rabbit diesels.

    Coasting downhill, out of gear, drafting semis. I remember that the only standard
    I used for mileage was how far I could get on a tank of fifty-five cents a gallon
    #2.

    I'm noticing a strange behavior as of late. I'm calling it the "right lane traffic jam."
    At least in my neck of the woods, I no longer have the far right lane to myself anymore!
     
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    Exactly. Or as I would love to say to one of these people - "you're right, you got to that red light MUCH faster that I did."
     
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    Hypermiling does not HAVE to impede traffic. I routinely Power Pulse to match the flow of traffic, set it to Cruise Control, and put it to Neutral Glide just before stoppage or for long but slight downslope. This technique yields 57-59 mpg for me in a GenIII Prius.

    Yes I know it's not giving me 60-70 mpg. But I'm not willing to risk my safety and that of the public, both physically (rear-ends, car crashes) and/or phychologically (road rages), to gain the last 0.1 extra mpg.

    You can have the hypermiling cake and eat it too. Even though it may be a smaller cake, it's still fullfilling.
     
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    Screw 'em.... if somebody does not like me driving 68 or so in the #3 lane....go around me.
    You have 3 other lanes!!![​IMG]
     
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    You call that an auto?
    That's not an auto . . . . . .

    [​IMG]

    Now THIS's an auto

    ;)

    You're missing the point ... by a MILE. In the 1970's the U.S. was importing under 15% of our oil wants/needs from other countries. Now? It's somewhere around 60% imported. So, if 15% of oil imports being cut off from the U.S. caused lines around the block, you can be CERTAIN that 60% being cut off would bring the country to a grinding halt. BTW, those massive fields in the Middle East are now over 70 years old, to the point where it'll start requiring more high pressure energy getting pumped into them (to keep the high volume coming up to the surface) than the energy being recovered. Now THAT, will put EVERY one in the hyper mile mood.
    We are living in exciting times.
    ;)
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    Road raging happened well before the term hypermiling was coined.

    Road raging is even done at other speeders! :rolleyes:

    If someone is gunning at 85 and weaving, who is the problem? ;)
     
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    I agree with you, but only if you are driving in light traffic when all the other lanes are quite free. But if all lanes are quite crowded and the cars following you simply cannot or have a lot of difficulties to merge into the other faster lanes because you are MUCH slower blocking them and not allowing them to speed up trying to go around you.

    I'm not sure "Screw 'em" is the best social behaviour to solve any issues. I hope you're not using this "Screw 'em" attitude towards everything that you don't agree to, or You may have some kind of silent "rage" in your psyche.

    I hope you don't "Screw 'em" by counting your 101 cents to the cashier in the supermarket when it was the 8 items fast lane with 30 people lining up behind you.

    I hope you don't "Screw 'em" by slamming the door to the people behind you entering the mall.

    It's just common courtesy to not get in people's ways.
     
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    :cheer2:

    In addition to not being a self-centered passive aggressive, you aren't messing up the flow of traffic, thereby not pissing off other drivers and thereby not resulting in the rest of traffic cumulatively using several times the fuel you save when the go around you.:rockon:
     
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    Yes, road-ragers are the real problem. Blaming all the road rage on hypermilers is like blaming the rich people for making you so poor so that you'd have to rob the bank. However, to me, I don't care if it's his fault, but I don't want to be the victim. I think road rage is a temporary insane state of mind triggered by something, and following a hypermiler is just one of them.

    We're not suggesting that hypermiling is the ONLY cause of road rage. We're merely suggesting that we shouldn't be the trigger to the psychological problems that the road-ragers have.

    You don't want to confront a mental patient wielding a knife, right?
     
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    SCREW THAT...when your on a 4 or 5 lane Freeway, mostly 5 here in L,A,, and you are in the #4 doing "70". 5 + MILES OVER the speed limit 65, SCREW 'EM, go around me...POSTED is 65 anyway!!!

    Maybe they are backwards up north, but #1 is far left lane "The Fast Lane...#5 is the on ramp lane...#4 is for folks who drive the 5+ over the limit!! And #2 & #3 are the go around me lanes...never pass on the right!!!
    And who are the knuckleheads, Generic, that all insist on 60 MPH in the #1 lane. And you wonder where "Road Rage" begins...Wth?
     
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    I may have heard a story of young Moses getting frustrated in traffic, then doing this...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah! And look what it cost him: 40 years wandering in the desert and being banned from the Promised Land! :eek: