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Upcoming Toyota lineup

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by zenMachine, Aug 13, 2008.

  1. Derek

    Derek New Member

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    Maybe the "real" initial Gen III will appear in 2012. I will wait to see, I have faith. It would be interesting to see Toyota pursue further developing one of the "World Engines" to maximize output in both the revving and consumption departments. I am all for this, but American's as a whole just don't seem to share the same mentality like the rest of the world seems to.

    Really hoping the driver seat will have a height adjustment.
     
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    What would be ironic is if those improvements *did* appear on the Honda Prius. These are the two major complaints that come up over and over. I will definitely be doing the Corrola seat mode but I wish I didn't have to.
     
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    Spectra Amphi-Prius

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    Hope you're right ...
     
  4. zenMachine

    zenMachine Just another Onionhead

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    The adjustable seat height mechanism already is present in non-US versions today. I doubt that it represents much of an extra cost in the next gen models, especially when they'll be built right here in the US and target the taller/bigger average American drivers.

    The next gen should have this feature (and telescoping wheel) as standard, or someone in Product Management ought to be fired for being so incompetent and stupid.
     
  5. V8Cobrakid

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    I support the larger engine.

    I've been doing a lot of high speed interstate driving. I feel a larger engine would be a lot safer in the larger grades. Maybe the 1.8L will be a better suiter as a prius standard...

    Keep in mind that every new generation prius, or any toyota, gets a more efficient electrical system.... peak power, storage, etc...
     
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    Does anyone know what the mpg will be for 2010 or is it just all speculation. This is really disappointing news from Toyota. The reason people are buy the Prius is for mpg not for pickup. I haven't seen any at the drag strip or Nascar.

    Come on Toyota produce what you said before a plug in in 2010. :humble::humble:
     
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    True. Though its almost certainly going to be either a 1.8l or a 1.6l for the next Prius. We just don't know which one.
     
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    Well, of course we can't really judge the Volt until it hits the market. But my point is, when it does, bear in mind that even Toyota is missing a lot of milestones.
     
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    First of all, my family will try and tough it out in our 2006 Sienna until the hybrid arrives.
    Secondly, have you ever gone to a Toyota/Lexus and heard the sales pitch on the other Toyota family hybrids? It's always "Way more power and acceleration than the non-hybrid version" Looks like the future Prius is going that route. Personally, I get to highway speed with no problem, and I gave up a turbocharged Subaru that used $3500 in gas a year for my Prius that I spent $775 last year to gas up.
    The Li-ion battery seems to be a more difficult fit for the engineers than they predicted...every manufacturer promising this is backing off on the date for release, and I am becoming more skeptical as time passes, about a PHEV coming to market.
    If the Prius Killer from Honda clunks like the Civic Hybrid that I tested, I wouldn't be too worried.
     
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    +1

    See my posts from weeks ago in the 2010 section.

    To anyone -

    go to toyota.com and send an email, voice your concerns, tell Toyota what you want to see in a car. They will respond, but of course won't promise anything.
     
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    At this point, it's all speculation about the 2010. I don't think anything specific is to be known about the 2010 before the unveiling in January at the Detroit auto show.
     
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    Gosh..hold the flowers for the funeral.

    Everything being written in every article is speculation at best. NOTHING ... as in not one single word ... has been officially stated by Toyota - except that the Li-Ions are not ready for Prime Time yet.

    Everything else is hyperventilation.
     
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    The Volt and the PHEV Prius are going to be 'Ho Hums' IMO. Some herein are waiting with bated breath for one or the other. But I believe that at $35000 - $40000 the targetted market is going to be very very very small.

    Well-to-do suburbanites with a perfect commuting pattern will benefit. The rest of us may pass for a variety of reasons. My own reason is that I drive far too many miles to make either one very interesting....especially at $35000+.
     
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    *Yawn.*:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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    Initially there won't be enough Plug-ins to satisfy demand, so the market price will naturally be high. The early adopters will always be willing to pay a premium anyhow, that's a given. But as more PHEVs become available and competition heats up I think prices will come down.

    Myself, I'm waiting for a plug-in minivan...
     
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    keep in mind that Toyota will have ability to produce 480,000 Priuses in 2009, up from 300,000 in 2008. Since Prius wont go on sale in January, they probably have nice capacity and they expect it to be even more appealing to rest of the world, otherwise they would not up the production so dramatically.
     
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    But those will not be plug-ins...
     
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    sorry, didnt see you were writing about plugins (which I personally am not interested in). Do consider that they starting mass production of lithium batteries in 2009 and 2010, so they might have some buildup there.

    I dont live in an house so cant really charge it.
     
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    Hopefully by the time plug-ins become widespread, new infrastructures will be in place for people without a garage to charge their cars (analogous to parking meters, etc.)
     
  20. spwolf

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    we know they are planning quick charge stations in Japan - that is the only way plugins will trully work... but it will take a long time until they are ready, and they will probably charge some premium for that too...