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List of annonyance things in your Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by [H]ackerK, Aug 20, 2008.

  1. [H]ackerK

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    OK, after having my 08 for 20 days, there are a few annonyance thing you may not notice during test drive... I am not sure about you, but these things are kinda annonyance to me...

    1) Voice Dial - In order to use the button on your steering wheel, first you have to hit the "info" button next to the display, then hit the Phone icon, then the voice dial button. Why can't Toyota engineer figure out just pressing the "voice dial" button means I want to make a call...

    2) Similiar to above, why there are 2 info buttons but behave differently?

    3) Filling up the tank. Yes I know the bladder design, but yes, it is real annonying when you are at a gast station trying to fill the tank like an idiot. My 1st fill up was great, 2 bars left, filled 32L when it clicks. My 2nd fill up, 3 bars left, spend some good 5 minutes and only managed to fill up 23L, yet upon startup, it show full tank! But the top 3-4 bars drops quickly in the next 100 or so km. 3rd fillup is kinda in between, 2 bars left and filled 30L, the gun tripped a few times, but not as bad as the 2nd time. All at diff gas stations (Shell) at diff pump.

    4) Just wish "EV Mode" button is a standard equipment in NA. I figure, unless I am going to drive the car for 15+ minutes, the first 10+ minutes really ruin your MPG (or L/100km)

    IMHO, #1 should be a easy fix with firmware update. #2 well, should be software as well...

    I haven't receive my survey from Toyota yet, but once I got it I will give them the feedback. BTW, I saw a Prius road trip at one of the shopping mall over the weekend. Spoken to a Toyota rep (from Toyota Canada), he doesn't know or even heard of the gas tank issue. As for #1, his comment was the engineer who design the UI has never seat in the car before (I was like WTH?!). As for EV Mode, he understand, and told me Highlander has it. :dizzy: Oh well.
     
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    Oh one more thing, I guess most of you agree is the reverse beep, but that was an easy hack... :)
     
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    My only real gripe with the Prius is on my package 6 with Nav you can barely do anything while driving. Since 2002 I've had several vehicles, all with factory Nav. The Prius is by far the most restrictive in terms of it's lockout while the vehicle is moving. Most other factory navs just lock out the ability to type in an address while driving... with the Prius, it locks out almost everything.
     
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    1) Not true.

    3) Never had a problem in over two years.

    4) Using EV to avoid warm up will keep the Prius from meeting U.S. emission standards. This is why the button is not available in the U.S. Even with the EV button, short trips will kill your mileage. EV is mostly good for moving your Prius across the parking lot.

    Tom
     
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    #1 please explain. Do you mean you can just hit the "voice command" button on your wheel while you screen is NOT on the Phone screen?

    #3 Good for you. Have read some people on this forum had this problem. Also my cousin warned me about that AFTER I got my prius. (He has a 06)

    #4 I am not sure. Eventually ICE will kick in if I drive it for longer distances or "as need" for more horse power. But I prefer ICE not to start, as soon as I powe up the car (ok 10 seconds delay). I rather want ICE to kick in later when needed (e.g. in motion)
     
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    I thought I read that the HiHy has an EV button? If bypassing warm up for emissions purposes was an issue wouldn't the HiHy have a similar prob?
     
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    i do not have nav i just have a regular package 3

    i dont have to press any extra buttons to get to the telephone i just click the telephone button on the steering wheel.

    annoyances
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    opening a rear window with all other windows shut makes this annoying vacuum rumbling sound

    can someone at toshiba/denso/toyota make some better bluetooth firmware? looking at letstalk.toyota.com, it sure looks to me that all the compability problems are all toyotas fault. i would like to be notified if they do release some better firmware. there are procedures in the toyota technical system for reflashing the various parts of the prius. i find it kind of odd that my $5 usb bluetooth adapter can receieve signal strength from my cellular phone, but the $25,000 something car cannot!

    too much reliance on the $1200 (starting price) toyota hand held tester and forcing prius owners to the dealer if they want to add an extra key or change simple settings, why not just include a usb port or bundle the tester with the car!

    the least durable paint job i have ever had

    $300 for a new nav disc

    lexus owners robbing us practically at gunpoint and stealing OUR parking assist in the united states

    the fuel economy seems to rely heavily on the inclination or declination angles of the car and the amount of weight one puts on the acellerator pedal, or maybe the accelerator pedal is too sensitive and requires the weight of a feather to keep the mpg above 42mpg
     
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    Interesting... BTW, I am from Canada, so I have no idea what those pkg #s are. Here we only have 3 choices, Base, Base+VSC+BT+CD Changer+9 Speakers+backup cam, all of the above+Nav.

    Not sure if that's a US vs Canada thing than. because so far, people (in Canada) I have spoken to, we all have to go to the "Phone" screen before we can use the voice dial feature....

    I have the "Premium" edition w/o Nav. Not sure what that's equal to..
     
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    The rest of your statement is true, but this part is false. You simply can't use the EV button to avoid warm-up, only delay it. I used to use it to back out of my parking space and get the car pointed down-hill, then disengage it so that it was through its warmup cycle just as I needed it at the bottom. I no longer live on that hill but it was nice to save a bit of idling that way.
     
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    oh maybe i misunderstood you, yeah i have to press the phone button on the steering wheel before dialing the phone, using speed dial, voice dial whatever. i thought i understood someone had to press info or something before pressing the phone, it made it sound like you can't just press the phone button on the steering wheel directly from the stereo or a/c or navigation screens..

    your edition is equal to a package 3
     
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    4) Just wish "EV Mode" button is a standard equipment in NA. I figure, unless I am going to drive the car for 15+ minutes, the first 10+ minutes really ruin your MPG (or L/100km)

    judging by the many times i have run out of gas, i did not believe it was possible to keep the prius moving for a mile let alone 10-15 minutes
     
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    1. No auto headlights on package 3
    2. Fuel bladder filling problem
    3. Can't see artist of MP3 while the car is in motion
    4. No subwoofer on JBL premium system
    5. No 12V outlet on driver's side (and I wish it would still have power when the engine is off)
    6. Crappy OEM tires (fixed that already)
    7. Reverse beep (fixed that too)

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    Never heard of Prius mud guards - I had to buy them on here
    Touring package not available in my area.

    But did I mention, I love my Prius :)

    Mike
     
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    [H]ackerK, while driving, try pressing the phone button on your steering wheel and then pushing the talk button on your steering wheel. Then you can use a vice command like Dial by Number or Dial by Name.
     
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    You mean by pressing the "off hook" button the "voice dial" button? I will give that a try....
     
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    Well what I really mean is usually in the first few minutes of my driving, I don't really need ICE to kick in for the boost. Not until I get to the 'main' road which I will need to step on it and I rather to have ICE to start at that time. Driving slowly with the ICE warm up itself uses more than 10L/100km as display on the MFD.

    What I really mean is a way to delay the ICE to start...
     
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    1. We have it here in Canada. So I guess mine was not really a pkg 3...
    2. Yup. I am glad I am not alone...
    3. Ah, never notice that. But I don't really care... :cool:
    4. True. It would be nice to have eh.
    5. Yea... But I have read a mod you have have power even engine is off.
    6. We have Bridgestone here instead of Goodyear... Not sure how it preform in Winter (you know, is great white north up here in the winter) And I guess I will be experiencing some TC action...
    7. Agree. And glad it was an easy fix!
     
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    its not just the prius that cuts power to the 12v when the car is off, its every single toyota ever made. its thier trademark, heh
     
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    My only real issue after having it for about six weeks is how fat the A pillars are. I'm relatively tall and have trouble seeing to the right if I have a passenger.

    We've had one minor issue with the fuel tank bladder, so that hasn't reached the level of an "annoyance" yet for me. Of course, I have a 4 and a 6 year old, so my threshold is pretty high.
     
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    You might want to rethink that 'want' when it gets cold :) You don't have your location in your profile but a lot of Canada is pretty darn cold in the winter, eh?

    One of the things I figured out after some winter months was that the car will use the electric motor MORE to get the car moving on start-up when the engine is cold than when it is warm. That lets the ICE warm up under less load, easier on the ICE and should result in longer life. For that reason, I changed my mind on the 'lower battery SOC when I get home for the day is better than higher SOC since the engine will be running in the morning and charge it anyway' theory. Having a higher SOC (meaning 5 or 6 blue, not 8 green) leaves more power for the electric motor to do its thing while the ICE yawns, stretches and has its first cup of coffee getting ready for the day instead of bolting out of bed at a dead run :)

    Until we get a PHEV Prius with many miles of EV range, the first 5 minutes will be low mileage/kilometerage :) You do have an engine block heater since you are in Canada. Use it and your ICE 'warm up time' prior to 'auto EV' will shorten.
     
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    I know what you mean. My wife's cell phone would stay charged. However, I haven't had to jump start the Avalon because somebody left something plugged into the 12V supply, like in previous vehicles. Mixed emotions on this one. :decision: