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Magnetic Field Reduction

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications' started by Ellie, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. Welshdog

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    Yeah you have to wonder why that is. Is it due to new epidemiological information or just corporations successfully lobbying to get things their way?

    I have a degree in horticulture so I have some familiarity with pesticides and herbicides. I avoid 2,4,5 T at all costs regardless of where it came from. It's just too persistent. The more I learned about pesticides in particular the more "organic" I have gone in my gardening. You still want to kill things, but there are better ways to do it than using Sarin, oops sorry I mean Sevin. And there are ways that don't have lingering effects.

    Yeah we all have dioxin in our tissues. PCBs are another one that haa wormed its way into all of us everywhere. Back in the 70s a tranformer exploded in our neighborhood, apparently full of PCB coolant oil. A bunch of guys in environmental suits showed up the next day and cleaned up the area including digging up soil and hauling it off. Another one of those things I wonder about sometimes - but not for too long.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    I'm from Michigan, so for me it's PBBs instead of PCB. PBBs were used as a fire retardant for children's clothes (TRIS). Some rocket scientist in Michigan got confused and mixed TRIS into cattle food supplements. This resulted in significant contamination with the eventual destruction and disposal of contaminated cattle, but not before a lot of PBB contaminated meat was sold to market.

    My standard joke is that the steaks were great: you could leave them on the grill all day and they wouldn't burn. :D

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    Yes, and yes. A lot of the more severe health effects can take a couple of decades to show up. At one time, various halogenated solvents were considered so "safe" they were routinely dumped on the ground, or put down drywells. Oops

    Consider that PCB was also considered a nice "safe" chem. Now if you find PCB, it's automatically a CERCLA/SARA issue. Our attitudes towards these chemicals have changed too - at one time it was considered okey-dokey to take one and croak "for the team."

    Yes, it tends to take a long time to break down. The solubility is low, along with volatility, so once it enters a water system, it can linger a *long* time. The worst-case scenario is deposition into a freshwater lake, in theory it could take +5 decades

    Yes, 1-napthyl methylcarbamate. It's a good cholinesterase inhibitor. Handle with care

    A lot of folks are unaware of how much "agent orange" or Dow Esteron Brush Killer was used in North America. It was a very popular herbicide and defoliant especially for utility companies and road medians and right-of-way clearing

    As an example, Esteron was routinely applied to the Haines Pipeline in central Alaska, to control vegitation along the pipeline. This pipeline was used from the mid 1950's to the early 1970's to supply JP-4 and DFA (Diesel Fuel - Arctic) to Fort Greely, Eielson Air Force Base, and Fort Wainwright.

    Back then was the peak of Chrome Dome, when a fleet of B-52's were orbiting 24/7 with constant aerial refueling. As you can imagine, that took an enormous amount of jet fuel. By some estimates, the Haines pipeline pumped 18,000 barrels - not gallons, BARRELS - a day for the entire history

    At one time, PCB was considered "safe" and used PCB was even sprayed on gravel roads as a dust control measure.
     
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    Whoa, Whoa, Whoa - I thought this thread was about how the Prius is killing me with Magnetic Field intensity. Now you want to make me think about all the bad chemicals in my body. How can I blame the Prius for that? :madgrin:
     
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    Sorry, didn't mean to go so far off topic. The engineering company I contract with has done site remediation of FUDS (Formerly Used Defense Sites) so I had an opportunity to participate and share the experience

    Oh, I'm sure some halfwit neoconservative will find a way. Probably someone like Rush will pull something out of his fat a**
     
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    Yikes!
     
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    Dont worry about EMF. Neither should you worry about EMI or RF interference.
    I,d worry about aliens sucking me out of my car at night.

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    Thas why i wear a seatbelt. it makes it harder for the aliens to suck me out of my car.

    An EMC Engineer
     
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    No, he'd try and convince his audience that those chemicals were GOOD for you, and yell at the "libruls" for ruining his god-given right to ingest as much DDT as he can.
     
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    WOT (way off topic): I don't think that Rush believes half of the crap that he spews out, but unfortunately, he has a bunch of "dittos" who do and often repeat it.

    I agree with Stev0, Rush thinks chemicals are good, especially OxyContin.
     
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    what about large diesel electric trains, or large consruction equipment? they must have a huge EM field. any cancer among train operators or construction workers? sounds like BS to me!!!
     
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    Thanks for giving me something else to worry about
     
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    The "dittos" are allowed to vote, and apparently they are also allowed to procreate

    I forgot about that. I wonder how our favorite hypocritical druggie is doing these days?

    Rush Limbaugh Arrested on Prescription Drug Charges - New York Times

    Apparently, he has trouble "getting it up" these days

    Rush Limbaugh Detained With Viagra, Held At Airport After Drug Lacked Prescription; Could See Deal In Prior Case Collapse - CBS News

    Gee, I wonder if I could find a doctor willing to write opioid and boner prescriptions for me, under a false name?
     
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    Don't worry too much; I think this only happens in a few of the southern states. Not sure why.

    How stupid would you have to be to try to smuggle a bottle of Viagra (that doesn't belong to you) through an airport when you are already under investigation for abusing prescription pain killers? Its a rhetorical question.
     
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    Whew what a relief! Where were you when all this started? From now on just call me Alfred E. Newman.
     
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    Hi Elli, are you still in this Forum? I have the same concern about EMFs on my 2010 Prius.
     
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    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

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    You have 2 choices

    Sell all your possessions that use or produce electricity

    or

    Find out what a 'safe' amount of EMF is and measure all your possessions. (Yes, the cats, too) Since there is no evidence that EMF is harmful unless it is ionizing, you will have to make your own determination what you consider 'safe'.

    Mythbuster: EMF levels in hybrids

    My 2008 Prius, and other things, EMF Measurements! | PriusChat
     
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    Danny may be missing out on a business opportunity. He could sell tin foil hats
     
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    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

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    That pretty much sums things up, Jimbo.

    "Ya just never know for sure .." :)
     
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    Well done guys! Thanks for the links! The results are surprising! And the foil hat is memorable...