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Satellite Radio Question

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by CBD2LAC, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. CBD2LAC

    CBD2LAC New Member

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    Sorry if this has been covered already but I searched the site and didn't find the exact question and /or answer I was looking for so here it goes.

    I am going this Friday to a dealership to order a 2009 Touring Package #6. When I read the Options and Packages on the Toyota website, it says "satellite radio capability". What is the exact definition of this? Does it mean all I have to do is call Sirius or XM and let them know I have a satellite radio capable unit, they flip a switch at their headquarters and send me a bill every month? (I know that sounds too easy). Is it a matter of telling Toyota, "yes, I want satellite radio" and they tell me that will be $800 for us to install some part to make your satellite "capable" radio into an actual satellite radio (plus monthly to the satellite company)?

    Assuming it does cost hundreds of dollars for the integrated system through a dealership, how much does and aftermarket system (must be integrated) cost and how complicated is it for a not too handy person to install?
     
  2. pdhenry

    pdhenry It's HEEERE!

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    On a package 6 the radio is "satellite capable" - it is capable of controlling an optional satellite tuner module. It doesn't come with the XM or Sirius tuner by default but one can be added to the radio.

    The dealer price is something like $500 but you can get a comparable unit for around $150 and install it yourself. Many people have.

    I just have a plug-and-play Sirius receiver plugged into the aux port in the console but eventually I may get the TOY-SC1 and SCVDOC1 package to integrate it into the steering wheel controls. My wife complains every time I bump her elbow off of the center console to change channels on the Sirius, so there's some SAF (spousal acceptance factor) in that.
     
  3. CBD2LAC

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    Thanks. That's exactly the information I was looking for. I need the integrated system for that very reason...SAF. A wise man told, if she's not happy, you're not happy!
     
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    don't get the dealer unit. its old its crummy and it has a 10 character limit, and they are going to want 500-900 for it. take the car home, and get the $150 unit later on, they are even selling the scc1/sc1 or svdoc option at sears for the same 149 !

    because of the xm/sirius merger, i am holding out, and decided to wait until the xm and sirius 'dual standard' radios come out

    can someone post some xm/sirius merger info? are the channels now being duplicated across both satellites? are there any plans
    to turn off xm or sirius streams? are they going to send us new radios if they decide to shut down a stream? is there a trade in plan?
    are the antennas going to be interchangeable? last i heard the actual sirius and the actual xm antenna weren't interchangeable
    i had to get my xm antenna replaced because it kept going out
     
  5. blazer_5154

    blazer_5154 Heh, you said "member"

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    While I am not sure of their future plans, Sirius and XM both now offer the "Best of" packages for an additional fee; these packages really only offer the talk / sports packages of the alternate service and not the music channels, which are mostly interchangeable any way.
     
  6. ctbering

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    I have Toyota installed unit. It does cost more but it is hardly an inferior unit. It sounds and looks great and was installed professionally. It is also very well integrated in my package 6 Prius touch screen.
    The complaints I have seen in this site about aftermarket units is the placement of the antenna and its an add-on unit. If you get an aftermarket unit it would benefit you to have the antenna placed to the 'rear' of your regular antenna to eliminate interference. That means drilling holes and running wire. If you can't do it yourself get it professionally installed.
    I purchased my car with the Toyota installed XM unit in May before FCC Sirius-XM merger was approved. I had concerns whether my xm receiver would be serviceable after the merge. I was assured by XM that it would always pick up the XM signal and that 'packages' with Sirius would be available. This has come to fruition. Since then I purchased a Panasonic XM home/portable receiver which I feel was a good buy (and a good monthly price from XM).
    I am sure the units will eventually change in the future however your xm/Sirius receiver will always pick up programming from the satellite company. I would not delay getting either Sirius or XM. Both radio satellites offer similar music/political programming which will eventually be consolidated for either Sirius/XM purchasers and the other programming sports/talk will be available in packages which other members have already commented on. I think its a win-win situation at this point but I haven't looked at the package prices at this writing. I have heard the CEO on the XM radio on the Opie an Anthony show and he assured XM buyers that XM/Sirius satellite purchasers will continue to receive all of the programming they signed on for (with sports/talk packages available from the other company). This is already happening. XM users are getting Sirius programming and vice versa.
    Hope this helps.
     
  7. 9G-man

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    The dealer installed Toyota unit is considered inferior because it has a 10 character readout, where the aftermarket has 16 characters. The main difference in the Dealer installed unit and aftermarket integrated unit are the price and Mfr.
    They are both fully integrated MFD controlled, and both require an antenna placement. No hole is ever drilled anywhere for an antenna wire. That is mis-information. Most of the complaints you have read were about Dealer placement of the antenna.

    Where did your dealer put your satellite radio antenna?
     
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    An even wiser man said, if she's not happy, exchange her for one that is happy when you are.
     
  9. ctbering

    ctbering Rambling Man

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    stock antenna on the rear center roof of the car...thought it required a hole but obviously not a Prius expert. I can't imagine a dealership installing it elsewhere but I see from previous posts it must've happened. BTW, the dealer-installed unit does sound great. cost more...sounds great.
     
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    The preferred installation is to put the satellite antenna right behind the AM/FM whip, running the antenna cable under the trim pieces to the back hatch, then under the rear hatch gasket.

    Some installers cheap out and put the antenna on the dash, but you may have reception problems.

    One other disadvantage to the factory unit is that it doesn't seem to have a buffer that prevents dropouts when driving under an overpass. The SC-C1 does.
     
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    The stock whip antenna on rear roof of the car is not your satellite radio antenna. So I would guess your dealer installed the satellite radio antenna on the inside of the car somewhere, which is a totally inferior installation. "costs more" just means that, especially at a car dealer.
     
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    First off, I would like to thank everyone for their replies to my original post. Getting several different opinions is actually a huge help in my making an informed decision that's right for me. That being said...

    As I mentioned in my original post, today was the day that I went to order my Prius. When I inquired with the salesman about the satellite radio, he told me that it all I needed to do was decide which company I wanted to go with, contact them, and have them activate the radio. I asked him if there was any further fees or installations necessary and he said no. With the combination of factors that the vehicle isn't even going to be delivered until February, that I'm a newbie to the Prius world, and the fact that I'm getting a slight break through my employer and didn't want to come across like an arrogant know-it-all, I just let it go. (Plus I knew my buddies back at the priuschat would have my back!)

    With that said, is it possible that with the '09 model, that something changed and the satellite unit is activation-ready or does this salesman really not know what he's talking about? By the way, I have browsed this website enough now to know that in numerous instances the sales folks apparently haven't known what they are talking about.

    That leads me to a second question. He also mention that the vehicle has an ipod hook-up. He also made this sound as though this was a ready-to-go feature. I was under the impression that this feature also required some type of factory or after-market attachment to work. If my previous impression was correct about this, is it also possible that this was a change to the '09 model?
     
  13. ctbering

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    I am not sure what your point is other than you don't like dealer-installed units. I have a suspicion that not all dealers install the units and antennas in an inferior manner. I understand you are well-versed on Prius but assuming every dealer installation means 'inferior' is a stretch. The satellite radio works great and the antenna is professionally installed behind what is now a shark fin antenna.
     
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    no its not a change in 2009. you will need something installed to get satellite radio
    maybe you can get it in writing, so you could score a free installation?
     
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    there is an aux adapter plug in in the center console that will work with an ipod if you have the upgraded sound system which is sat ready.