1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Sneak Peak of the New Prius #7 - Solar A/C Confirmed?

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Danny, Nov 17, 2008.

  1. jeffreykb

    jeffreykb Junior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2008
    85
    4
    0
    Location:
    TX
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Toyota is such a tease. They should release a photo of a label that reads "110VAC electric only". Some folks might think that a pure electric Prius version (no ICE) was being released. Unless I'm missing something, a fob A/C button is little indication of the "much requested" solar panels.
     
  2. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    12,755
    5,245
    57
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Careful with generalizations. That statement is absolutely false here in Minnesota. Location makes a profound difference.

    .
     
  3. patsparks

    patsparks An Aussie perspective

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    10,664
    567
    0
    Location:
    Adelaide South Australia
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Just checking to see if anyone was looking.

    (actually had a blond moment):yield:

    Well I park under cover at home and at work but I do realise I'm lucky to park under cover at work.
    Intelligent people put their $30,000 car in the garage rather than their $500 lawn furniture but each to their own.

    Remote AC would be nice on a solar charged battery when I do park outside. I'm not sure how the remote looks cheap, I know like all Toyota remotes and switches it will feel solid and the switches on the remote will be smooth and precise. Have you driven a Nissan lately? Switches feel like they are full of gravel, that is cheap.

    I'll be sad if the plug-in comes in 110 volt only, 240 volt please.
     
  4. ken1784

    ken1784 SuperMID designer

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2003
    2,940
    1,365
    67
    Location:
    Yokohama, JAPAN
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Please refer to page-3 of following paper about the PTC heaters.
    http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/Hybrid06.pdf

    Ken@Japan
     
  5. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    15,140
    611
    0
    Location:
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Vehicle:
    2013 Nissan LEAF
    Model:
    Persona
    maybe...maybe not. it may still be available...

    one push...unlock drivers door

    2 push....unlock all doors

    3 push...unlock all doors AND open hatch
     
  6. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    15,140
    611
    0
    Location:
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Vehicle:
    2013 Nissan LEAF
    Model:
    Persona
    Close!! but not quite....A/C stands for "anti collision"

    turn it on, it prevents bumper hits from unskilled parallel parkers and door dings from people on their way to weight watchers.

    but seriously...what i hope it means is

    air circulation.... auto vent control to block off grill...
     
  7. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    15,140
    611
    0
    Location:
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Vehicle:
    2013 Nissan LEAF
    Model:
    Persona
    i always called it a panic button when i started to panic cause i couldnt remember where i parked.

    i hit the button, the car says "here i am!!"

    feelings of panic subside...im good!!
     
  8. xsmatt81

    xsmatt81 non-AARP Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2008
    522
    8
    0
    Location:
    Vegas
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    the suspense is agonizing
     
  9. KAR IDEA

    KAR IDEA Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2007
    465
    8
    5
    Location:
    Lake Peekskill, NY USA
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    Three Touring
  10. hobbit

    hobbit Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2005
    4,089
    468
    0
    Location:
    Bahstahn
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Remote startup of the A/C makes NO sense from an energy consumption
    standpoint. Given the temperatures a closed car can reach inside,
    it makes much more sense to open all the doors and the hatch and
    wait for a breeze to carry the vast bulk of that hot air out
    of the cabin for free, instead of trying to make the A/C fight
    it with the sun still blasting in.
    .
    What would be much more effective would be close-fitting silvered
    shades you could draw over all the windows when parking. That
    would be great for those "prius as RV" roadtrips, too. And much
    simpler than remote-start climate control. I don't think the
    A/C could keep up with that highly efficient "greenhouse effect"
    black dashboard and the way it collects heat, especially not at
    the 200 or so watts you might be able to collect from a PV panel.
    .
    That would be much closer to the auto-cloaking idea, too..
    .
    _H*
     
  11. neutronned

    neutronned New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2008
    65
    17
    0
    Location:
    Twin Cities MN
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    Re: Here's what I said at the POG

    Some of the new 2.4GHz ISM transmitters are quite small and have a range of a few hundred feet (50 to 150meters). Google "loc8tor" for a wireless "Find me" system that has a claimed range of 400 to 600 feet. BTW: it's interesting that on their range page, they're using a small image of the Prius as their car example. Coincidence? I think not!!

    If Toyota is using similar technology, you could have a useful range to start the A/C cooling your car.

    My guess: solar to top off the primary battery and use the battery to run the A/C for a fixed time period after button press.
     
  12. zenMachine

    zenMachine Just another Onionhead

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2007
    3,355
    300
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    The new fob doesn't look to me like it's meant to be inserted into a key hole like in the current gen. Does anybody else also see it that way?

    And doesn't look like it contains a mechanical key either...
     
  13. Gilbert

    Gilbert Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2007
    255
    15
    0
    Location:
    California
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Three


    Mine has the lock/unlock same position as the ones showed in the 2010 pic and its a 2008.
     
  14. Paradox

    Paradox Prius Enthusiast / Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2005
    29,110
    8,589
    201
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Five
    I thought that too but it looks like the 'nub on the bottom' which the small ring goes through is rubber and maybe the very end of what could be pulled out as a key(?)
     
  15. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    15,140
    611
    0
    Location:
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Vehicle:
    2013 Nissan LEAF
    Model:
    Persona
    i dont think its A/C in the normal sense either. i can see maybe just a circulation fan running, thermo controlled to kick in at 120º...then again, that would be a bit low for Phoenix and the like, maybe thermo ADJUSTABLE setting??

    this would prevent the furnace/sauna blast you get in the first 2 minutes after a day at work in August.

    but why have it on a remote?...then again, my remote would reach my Pri when i was working, (seniority gets me window seating!@!...jk... no one in our figure H building is more than 50 feet from the wrap around windows)

    unless its to kick on the A/C for just a minute or so it takes to walk that last 100 feet?
     
  16. jorgeez

    jorgeez New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2008
    121
    1
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    The suspense is killing me. More teaser pictures please...
     
  17. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    44,926
    16,145
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Just look at a Camry Hybrid key. It'll be very very similar. And no, it won't insert into the dash. The Prius is the only one with the opening. All other SKS -equipped cars afterwards do not have a slot.
     
  18. spwolf

    spwolf Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2005
    3,156
    440
    0
    Location:
    Eastern Europe
    i think it will be like modern version of lowering all the windows before you enter the vehicle (like you have in Lexus models if you hold unlock for 10-15 seconds)... it will re-circulate and probably cool air via A/C for limited time, designed to quickly lower the temp inside the vehicle... it will probably use solar panels to re-plenish battery so AC can work for a little bit.

    during summer high temps (and it is crazy hot here, >40C in the shade), it helps a LOT to just lower windows via key fob 20-30 seconds before i enter the vehicle, and i am sure this will be a lot better too...
     
  19. spwolf

    spwolf Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2005
    3,156
    440
    0
    Location:
    Eastern Europe
    indeed... it is just like all the new smaller vehicle smart entry keys (Yaris, Auris)... Rav4 here gets upscale version, similat to this one (upscale Corolla in Thailand)


    [​IMG]
     
  20. Blue

    Blue New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2005
    46
    0
    0
    Location:
    Alexandria, VA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    As I've been spending 5-10 minutes every morning for the past couple weeks scraping frost off my windows, while my ICE is running and heating up the car interior, I would have to say that remote A/C startup makes a lot of sense. I'd also like my Prius to be secure when this is occurs, as I will likely be in my house staying warm and not looking through the window to make sure no one is cleaning me out. ;)