World's 1st PHEV: Just 3 more Weeks!

Don't know why, but it reminds me of a GM sedan.


Must be the oversized grill

 

If the BYD vehicle is sold in the USA, why would anyone want to buy a GM Volt if the BYD vehicle is $10,000.00 less and operates in electric mode 80 miles on a single charge?

Here is another article:

Kulongoski lobbies to bring China's new hybrid car to Oregon

 

Will you people please learn to use the English language properly! It is "you're" ... an abbreviation for "you are" ... right, NOT "your right." "Your" is the possessive pronoun, used as in "your home" or "your car".
What kind of English language instruction did you have in school?

the spelling Nazi!

 

the battery's from the BYD are not that good..

 

Tee hee! I love it when someone else is annoyed by incorrect use of the English language! I thought I was the only one to suffer from this affliction!

Dragging the subject back on to topic, I think this Chinese PHEV is a step in the right direction. The Chinese are becoming great innovators and engineers rather than producers of knock-off, poorly made goods.

This year I've spent a lot of money on musical instruments made in China which previously I would never have purchased due to my concerns about quality and the working enviornments of those in the manufacturing process. However, now the insruments I've purchased are better in many ways than the European models and far cheaper.

 

That's the same bunch that made the now infamous Thundersky
lithiums, right?
.
_H*

 

Just to clear up some innaccuracies in this thread....

BYD are one of the biggest and most advanced manufacturers of lithium-ion batteries in the world. The quality of their product should be assessed by the fact that they are used in a large proportion of all portable electronic goods from the major brands in all countries - chances are you have been using BYD batteries for years in your own cell phone. They are not the same as Thundersky, which is a separate company working with a different chemistry.

As for the world's first PHEV, this is not entirely true, as here in Europe we had two PHEVs for sale back in the 90s, one from Audi (the Duo) and one from Renault (the Electroad). Both were not commercial successes due to the battery technology not being quite there yet, and were dropped (they tried using NiCds and lead acid!).

 

where those not NON commercial fleet cars?

i have seen data ( i will see if i can find it again ) about 123 company and BYD and the BYd got a lot more internal resistance

give me some time if i can find it.

 

Agreed, the A123 LiFePO4 cells are superior to BYD LiFePO4 cells in some areas, since A123 are using nanoscale particulates in their cell assembly.

However the major benefit that BYD has is that it already has massive manufacturing capacity and can produce the cells for less than $300 per kWh, whereas A123 are still over $1,000 per kWh.

It is interesting to note that the success of the coming PHEVs will be almost independent of the chassis builder and almost entirely dependent on who can build the best batteries for the best price. The battery manufacturers and not the car manufacturers are going to dictate who wins this race.

 

Yes, although the specs on the BYD car are pretty impressive, if real.

 

That's a very important point. I think Toyota's recent investment in battery manufacturing is going to pay off big for them.

And I remember a rumour about Toyota researching a zinc air rechargeable battery that will outperform lithium ion.

Then there is always EEstor which, if real, would make the ZENN a big time player in the auto market.

 

BYD @ Detroit Auto Show

BYD and Brilliance move up to main floor at Detroit show