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2010 Prius to have A2DP Enabled - Bluetooth Music Streaming

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  1. Danny

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    It looks like tech dorks will have another reason to love the Prius when the 2010 Prius becomes available in late Spring. Toyota is bringing the A2DP Bluetooth profile to the Prius audio system. What does that mean? It means that you can stream music via Bluetooth from your phone (or any Bluetooth device that Toyota supports) to your Prius sound system.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this may be the first implementation of A2DP in a car's factory audio system. I know that BMW talked about it at one point, but I couldn't find any reference to it on their site.

    I found the information over on the Prius mini-site on Toyota's website:

    The 3rd Generation Prius

    Learn more about the A2DP profile here:

    Bluetooth profile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And no, the iPhone does not support the A2DP profile.
     

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    I'll take that in the friendly admiration tone in which I'm sure it was intended. :p
    Yet. Come on Apple, let's go already! Perhaps it will also support the Phonebook profile? The iPhone does support that (just not the older object push)...
     
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    Tech dorks? I resemble that remark...

    I'm hoping my Crackberry does, it does support audio devices, but it's not specific on A2DP profile within the menus.
     
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    also, europeans will be able to transfer songs to internal HDD of the Navi via Bluetooth as well...
     
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    Danny,
    No. 2010 Prius will not be the 1st to have A2DP.
    2009 Mazda CX-9 GT with Assist Package has it.
    (Like Prius, CX-9s also employ lot of electronics from Denso)

    I have been using A2DP headset (Motorola) with my cell phones (Moto V3xx and now HTC Fuze).
    You still can't compare the quality (S/N ratio) to wired headsets.
    Basically, it is near FM quality than CD. It feels good to have no wires attached, though.
     
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    the A2DP profile would be listed under bluetooth...most phones introduced in the past 12 months have it. i have an LG 9900 and voyager that both do it. makes me want to get a memory card and start loading music on it. i jus need to get my i pod music converted to either WMA or MP3
     
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    lol.. that's what I've said when I mentioned "Bluetooth Audio"

    The 2009 TSX has Bluetooth audio.
     
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    Honestly, unless the Prius can control the device via BlueTooth, I'll probably stick w/ wired (or USB if it really exists) connectivity for the iPod directly. No need for one more transcoding to fuss w/ audio quality.
     
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    One more note:
    The A2DP drains power much faster than your BT voice call. (probaby due to dual channels)
     
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    Maybe it'll depend on phone? I'm not sure how advanced the technology is and whether you can control the tracks wirelessly.
     
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    I do not know about you, but I keep my phone plugged into a car charger (12V outlet in the center console is a very used feature for me) almost continuously, making this more or less moot.
     
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    i have car charger for nearly everything, BT headset, phone, i-pod, so power drain would be a non issue. having not used BT in a car, i am not sure i would prefer it. but not having to carry my headset around (i use it a lot, but there are car trips that i would prefer not to bring it but hands free laws says someone has to do it) on every trip would be cool.

    as it is, i forget so many times (too many cars) that i now just carry a spare in glove box just in case.
     
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    It'll probably depend on the prius more. The A2DP profile supports track control, so it'll depend on how the Prius implements, and how well they handle hands-free events during A2DP playback. Given their... poor... implementation of the OBEX functionality to transfer the phonebook, one can only hope they hired some proper programmers to handle things this time.

    And, as mentioned earlier, A2DP is a MAJOR drain on a battery and it heats phones up faster than you might expect. You'll need a charger to go along with playback, for sure.
     
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    My experience with A2DP has been negative as well. I own O'ROKR BT sunglasses that are OK for podcastas and audiobooks but I would not recommend them for music.
     
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    I think AVRCP is the profile that actually enables controlling tracks/volume from your BT headset (in this case, Prius).
    A2DP only channels music to the Prius (or headset).

    Here is a list of profiles supported on my HTC FUZE (AT&T)
    A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile)
    HSP (Headset Profile)
    HFP (Hands Free Profile)
    PAN (Personal Area Networking Profile)
    HID (Human Interface Device Profile)
    OPP (Object Push Profile)
    BPP (Basic Printing Profile)
    FTP (File Transfer Profile)
    SAP (SIM Access Profile)
    AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control Profile)
    DUN (Dial-up Profile)
    PBAP (Phonebook Access Profile)
    SPP (Serial Port Profile)
    SDAP (Service Discovery Application Profile)
     
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    You're 100% right... here's the quote from the spec:

    Note also that the A2DP does not include remote control functions. Devices may support remote control features by implementing both A2DP and the control profile as depicted, for example, in the usage scenario of Audio/Video Remote Control Profile.

    That said, I'd be somewhat surprised if they don't implement that as well... I've seen very few A2DP headsets that don't include control buttons. If they don't include it, it's fairly useless.
     
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    Not sure if this is proper thread for this question but I am curious as to how difficult people anticipate the hands-free bluetooth set-up on the new 2010 without having the touch screen.
    I am very excited about this feature (living in WA...where it is the law) and it seemed easy enough to program everything on the touch screen in the 09, but seems to do it all by voice command??? would be a pain in the @$$. Maybe not?
    I know it's a one time pain but I enjoy the ease of the touch screen to easily change phones, see number (name) of caller displayed, and adjust the sound/speaker settings.
    Any thoughts?
    **this is one of the many questions I have in my decision to buy 09 vs 10 model**
    Thanks!
    Lauren
     
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  19. Tideland Prius

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    In terms of setting up the bluetooth, it's the same procedure in the 2009 and 2010. The only difference is that with the 2010, you can get bluetooth without the screen so you'll be using either voice command or the TUNE button to scroll through menus rather than a touchscreen. I've paired two BT phones to a Camry Hybrid without the touchscreen and it was simple enough.
     
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    Thanks!
    Only thing missing would be #/name of caller being displayed. Hmmmmmmmm
     
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