Prius Generations

In the second section "Motor"...is that MG2 I presume? Be nice to specify for those who might have some basic understanding that there isn't just one motor.

 

likewise, "generator"...MG1?

 

Finally, why not list the alternate wheel sizes for '04-'09 and '10 if that information is apropos to the chart?

Otherwise, I really like the chart...it's nicely laid out and is interesting to compare the progression of the data. It would be nice to see cargo capacity, wheel base, external sizes, and even base prices listed to complete the picture.

 

Just noticed...MG2 torque is LOWER in the 2010 than before...by almost 50%? Is that accurate despite the higher HP & kW rating? Somehow that doesn't seem to make sense.

 

So how does that differ? How does it make up for the torque deficit? (i.e. how does it go about multiplying the torque)

 

I realize you like to keep things simple, but when it creates confusion, or worse is unclear or inaccurate (like calling MG1 a motor and MG2 a generator when they are both, both) you add to confusion and misinformation. It's just as simple and much more clear to simply identify them as MG1 and MG2.

Again, if you start them off with misleading information they must be retaught. I realize you don't like to correct these things, but it's very easy to be both clear and accurate without creating confusion. The way the chart is currently is neither clear nor accurate IMO.

Really? It's not clear to me from the chart that this is different than any other hybrid. Like I said, I know you don't take well to critique on this sort of thing, but it's what I think.

In addition, the issue about tire size/width, etc. It's really irrelevant to the hybrid components that dominate the rest of the chart. If you insist on including that information then I think you should include other specs like size, weight, cargo capacity, MPG etc so the "picture" of the cars is complete. IOW, you're showing both how the engineering of the hybrid system advanced while still growing the vehicle size/capacity, etc.

Look, it's a great chart in many ways, I just think it could be reasonably improved to better achive your goals and provide even more information while not confusing or getting too complicated.

 

BTW, the traction battery is unchanged and thus will still be 99lbs.

 

Yup, and how many times have I had to clarify that over the past 5 1/2 years?? Way more than I'd like to say. A simple diagram that shows both MGs would not confuse anyone...and would make the HSD much easier to understand IMO.

I agree, but I don't think you need to assume "stupid" with the KIS part. And I refuse to believe it would confuse anyone or anything to put a simple (MG2) and (MG1) next to the respective "motor" and "generator" areas.

 

Thanks for the change.
Frankly, I like helping spread knowledge too, but it's helpful if those seeking knowledge don't first show up with misinformation at least some of the time!

 

So, did you double check the Torque of MG2 in the 2010? What's your source...that just seems so odd to me on the surface that it would be so much less. Would like to hear one of the technically informed explain that.

 

Hmm, that's less than the 199lb-ft @ 0-1,500rpm for the TCH.