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Screwing the environment again

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by daniel, Feb 13, 2009.

  1. jayman

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    Not just any guns, but big, bad kick-nice person guns, missiles, tanks, etc etc etc
     
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    Walls are unnecessary. Annex mexico. Take their oil. Tax the rich mexicans. Repeat with Canada.
     
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    That would probably work, as neither country would offer serious resistance

    Unless you count the various drug dealing gangs, those folks would probably offer far more serious resistance than the "official" Army

    The best way to implement such a plan would be under the guise of a critical national emergency. Something like, oh .... lessee .... perhaps a crushing economic crisis
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    There would be a language barrier. It would be okay with the Mexicans, but we could never learn to speak Canadian, or the other way around.

    Tom
     
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    Eh? What was that? Hoser ...
     
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    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    The law is nothing but rich folks telling poor folks they have to stay poor or they'll be put in cages. Everything the Nazis did was legal, under German law, at the time. On the other hand, in India under the Brits it was illegal for poor people to make their own salt from sea water. They were supposed to buy it from rich people. And in the U.S. not so long ago it was illegal for black folks to drink from a public drinking fountain in many states.

    "When the law is just, obey it. When the law is unjust, break it."
    -- The Gospel of Hiram
     
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    After a few years the wall will come down. Americans will get tired of paying $20 per pound for vegetables harvested by citizens.
     
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    The U.S. tried that with Canada once...it didn't work out quite as planned.
     
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    patsparks An Aussie perspective

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    That would be a good post if you did some research and saw that Adelaide is a long way from Sydney and was settled by free settlers not convicts.

    I never said Australia was without sin, I was saying that when whites settled the US it was occupied and the white people came anyway, why not let the Mexicans in? I don't mind letting honest people into Australia.
     
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    More than likely, if you passed a law requiring citizens to pick veggies in the field, they'd form a union and demand $48.37 an hour.

    Yeah, that wall would come down real fast then
     
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    Threaten to cancel Hockey Night In Canada and the invasion will fail again
     
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    One thing the US, Canada, and Australia have in common: aboriginal peoples were already established when white Europeans stepped off the boat

    All three countries have a sad history of eradication, "re-education," and discrimination against their aboriginal population
     
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    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    That would only be if the wall actually kept Mexicans out. It won't. U.S. employers (hotels, farm corporations, construction, private citizens looking for a maid, etc.) want cheap labor, and will bring Mexicans into the country. The wall won't stop anyone. It will just change the entry routes, and may make it more expensive for immigrants and put more money into the pockets of the smugglers of people.

    Just as drug laws do nothing but create drug cartels which destabilize the governments of the drug-producing countries, so the wall will do nothing but strengthen the cartels which smuggle people into the country. If we're really lucky, people will climb the wall or make holes in it and it won't even do that.

    If you really want to keep foreign workers out, pass a living wage law and enforce draconian punishments against employers who pay less than that wage, with immunity from deportation for undocumented workers who report violations. As long as there's a market for cheap labor, workers will come.
     
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    Awwwww there you go making sense again
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    It shouldn't be allowed. It only serves to confuse the rest of us.

    Tom
     
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    The only recourse I have is heavy drinking
     
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    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    I know you folks love to talk about drinking, and talking won't hurt anyone. But I've seen people near and dear to me destroy themselves with alcohol, so I hope the talk is just that and in real life you limit yourselves to a beer or two. My first step-father was married three times (my mom was his second) and they all divorced him because of his drinking, and he died relatively young of alcohol-related problems. My second step-father was a jolly drunk, so we never realized he was an alcoholic until it was too late. When his lifestyle switched from very active to sedentary, he gained a mountain of weight, and his alcoholism prevented him from being able to deal with his weight, and he died quite young of a heart attack. And I watched a good friend put his fist through a glass window in a drunken stupor and land in the hospital emergency room. Fortunately, he managed to sober up a few years later.

    A couple of beers won't hurt anyone as long as you don't drive. But heavy drinking is a recipe for tragedy that destroys lives and leaves your loved ones mourning.

    Not to mention impaired driving. A car is a deadly machine, and even a "legal" amount of alcohol in your blood makes you a less alert driver.

    So, back to all the drinking jokes, but I hope they're just jokes.

    Have fun...
     
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    Um ... they're just jokes. Seriously, a bottle of gin lasts me almost a month
     
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    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    Glad to hear it!
     
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    Back to discussing drinking and sheep