2010 Prius Models and Option Packages

i disagree, i love that about my prius, its pretty rare and special. I never liked the idea i had badges to tell everyone what package I bought. In fact off the top of my head I can't think of any car the didn't share its packages with a trim badge or a decal on the outside of the car. man I love my prius! I own hot rods my whole life, none of my "cool/fast" cars are like the prius in this manner. they all have individual badges to show what model they are.

any one have information on pricing?
or california dealers taking pre orders?

thanks

 

Who cross-rotates tires (or tyres) anymore? It seems that most every tire made now is not capable of being (safely) rotated except through the (now standard) front-back rotation.

 

I thought that radial tires are ONLY to be rotated front to back!

 

Interesting... thats what I always thought to.. to prevent separation from stress being pulled a different direction that previous.
I learned something again!

But I've never heard or payed attention to the term unidirectional "[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_rotation"]unidirectional[/ame]" until now.

 

The warranty statements on all but one of my radial tire purchases have indicated that cross rotation is acceptable.

 

:shocked: Wow! I thought I had read, even recently, that most of today's tires, including all steel-belted radials, should be rotated only front to back. I've gone to Goodyear's site, read the warranty, and found that the tires have to be properly rotated -- whatever that was supposed to be! It took a long time to find a statement on the Goodyear site that said almost all of their tires can be cross-rotated or rotated front to back.

Blow me down! Sorry Tideland!

There is nothing wrong with front-to-back rotation, so perhaps what I read is that today most people rotate that way instead of doing a cross rotation!

 

I was told from my senior to do that many years ago too.
But, the Japanese Prius owner's manual says they can be crossed.
However, the US manual says don't cross.

Ken@Japan

 

The 2001 US Prius owner's manual specified a rotation pattern like the Japanese pattern in Ken's msg above. I cross-rotate my tires as needed (if one side is wearing faster than the other.)

This is OK as long as the tires are not uni-directional. If they are, then the tires must be dismounted from the rims and remounted so they will continue to rotate in the correct direction when moved to the other side of the car.

In Europe it appears that tire rotation is not a common practice. It's not something to lose sleep over. If you like to buy four tires at a time, then rotate. If you like to buy two tires at a time at more frequent intervals, then don't rotate.

 

my brother was in tire business and previously steel belted radials had several layers that would shift slightly during wear with inside belt (or smaller belt) shifting towards the middle creating a tire that "leaned" slightly. so cross rotating was not recommended because it would cause the belts to lean the other way which in theory would cause the belts to become unacceptably loose.

granted that was years ago and we all must assume that advancements in technology have eliminated that. i however feel that that side pressure is still present and all metal will fatigue under pressure and that fatigue will be much lessened if always in the same direction so i as a personal choice do not cross rotate

 

For what it's worth, my very good Honda mechanic believes tire rotation is completely unnecessary and pointless. Claims it adds nothing to the life of modern tires for normally driven cars. He won't do it unless you insist.

 

I know we're getting a bit "off track" here, but I was wondering if you knew whether the Nokians are uni-directional. The WRs is what I think I'm questioning.

 

get another mechanic

 

Hmm. I'm at a bit over 40,000km (25,000 miles), and I just measured at 5/32 and 6/32 on my OEM Integrities. I plan to run those through until the Fall and then replace with . . . Nokians?

 

Well I've always rotated anyway, but probably not as often as most people.

 

I ran at the door-jamb setting for the first 6 months and then increased in steps up to as high as 44/42. I now run at 40/38 or 42/40, depending on weather. I am a pretty cautious driver and do not really stress tires very much!

We have a local company in the Chicagoland area that sells Nokians. They were just running a special at $100 off for a set of 4. It may not be as good as buy 3 get one free, but it's not bad, either.

I haven't read a bad review yet! And I've also heard there is very little mileage hit in exchange for superior performance and safety.