Anybody else catch "Star Trek" yet???

Anybody else take note of how almost *every* control is touch-screen
based, except of course for the chrome "boat throttle" used to enter
warp? Teehee. One of the best lines had to be "You *are* a pilot,
aren't you?" or close to that.
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I hit the local IMAX show last night and sat waaaay up in the back
so I could see everything without whipping my head back and forth.
The place even has shaker-seats. Whee! Even so I was mildly annoyed
by how the cinematography just kept *moving* too much to really allow
seeing the set and CGI details.
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Driving home after a movie like that is pretty entertaining, especially
when one's vessel is fitted with aft photon torpedoes.
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I took my mom to see if for Mothers Day (she's an old-school Trek geek, I'm a Next Gen one). We both loved it. I gotta say they did a much better job with the movie than I expected. Lots of plot holes and impossible physics (even accounting for the ST universe) but the new crew has such great chemistry together you can forgive those minor quibbles.

I also like the fact that they didn't hit you over the head with "wink-wink" in-jokes (even though there are plenty of inside jokes and references) and that the actors - particularly Chris Pine as Kirk - played their roles essentially straight. They captured the essence of the original characters without descending into self-parody. The acting as a whole was excellent. I'd say all of them hit their characters' marks just right.

 

Whole family loves the movie. Saw it Saturday, and then again Sunday. Haven't gone to a movie twice like that in a very long time. Once "everyone" has seen it, there's a big plot hole I'm eager to explore. Also, am I the only one that found "the loss" a bit depressing? My wife and kids are telling me to get over it.

 

Yes, time isn't quite here yet to talk about all the bad decisions in the script, but once another week or two passes, we should get into it. I'm glad everyone enjoyed it more than I. I'd like to see it again to see to see if my impression would change.

I guess part of the problem for me was that when I heard that they moved the release date from Christmas to May because the final product would have "broad appeal" I really expected a lot. Mostly I was satisfied, but some decisions the film makers made weren't stellar IMHO (heh).

 

True, not everybody liked it.

 

I went to see the movie on Friday night at a nearby IMAX. I have been following the discussion on Star Trek BBS fok over a year now, and my attitude going in was to keep an open mind, and accept that if they had to kill Star Trek in order to save it, so be it.

Well that is more or less what happened. My overall opinion of the movie is -- mixed. It was definitely entertaining. As a movie, it was exciting and fast paced. The shaky camera and lens flare got to me after a while -- too much, enough to give one a headache. The story was so-so. Shallow, no depth, signifying nothing.

As Trek, it is a bit hard to swallow the destruction of Vulcan. OK, this is an entirely new timeline. Everything we know of Trek happened over there.

The characters, especially McCoy, were well played. Except for Sarek. Mark Lenard left a mark that is hard to hit.

Of more significance is the impact the film is having on fandom. It is exciting to be a Trekkie again, maybe even cool. The pre-release buzz, the merchandising and cross promotion have all brough Star Trek back into the public consciousness. The STARFLEET clubs are mostly reporting significant membership enrollments at their recruiting tables at showings. Some non-Trekkies are even expressing interest in Star Trek again.

This film is the most exciting thing to happen in the four years since Enterprise was terminated. Except for the launch of the Zhang Heng, of course.

The Trekkies are 85% positive about the movie.

 

Trekkie vs Trekker? I guess it's cooler being a trekker these days because trekkers are younger and less affected. Also, trekkies have a lot of baggage that has has followed the Star Trek adventure post 1960's.. We have all heard of the undying trekkie love for the series after so many years, with so many Las Vegas conventions and subsequent Star Trek movies over the years. Really the trekkers couldn't be cool without the trekkies paving the way to exploring new worlds.

 

There are a few loose ends in the script, but what drew the big question mark over my head was the death of Spok's Mother. She's alive in the 6 theatrical releases back in the 80s.

 

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That wasn't a loose end. The entire HISTORY has changed. Kirk's father DIED at the beggining of the movie which is not the case in the history we know.
That was the whole point. History was changed by the bad guy. Many things stayed the same, but some things changed.
That is what many meant by Star Trek - Reboot. They have so many possibilities now. Heck, they could do the original series again with the new actors and explore what those changes do to the 'original history'.
It is part of what has me so exited about the possibilities

 

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReBoot"]Reboot[/ame]? No, no, that's a totally different show.

 

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Do Not Read Below This Line If You Have Not Seen The Movie.
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Hey guys the entire time continuum of Star Trek was changed with this release, was it not? From the very first scene where the Romulin ship comes through the Black Hole created by Spock with Red Matter and thus back through time 129+ years. i.e. Kirk’s father died, not the same as the original series and notice the clunkiness of that model star ship? To the scene in the end where both Spocks are alive everything has changed! Pike couldn’t speak or move his extremities in the original series. In others words future writers of Star Trek now have free artistic license to rewrite anything thing they want and not stay consistant with the original series because of this and yet everything is still familiar to us. BRILLANT! and damn cool in my opinion. More modern ships for the same time period, notice the external cannons ala’ BSG? No microscope data terminal for Spock to peer into, phasers have a decided 20th century report “bang bang” to them and no apparent stun setting i.e. more primitive than the original series while other things seemed more advanced.

Oh Boy! Oh Boy! Oh Boy!​

Everything can change and yet in many aspects it’s still all familiar, like large green hooters for instance. ound:




Wildkow


p.s. in my excitment to post I didn't read all the posts and Zythyrn hit the nail on the head before me. Yep it's a whole new ballgame, BRILLANT!!

 

We saw it tonight.

I remember the young, intense, rigid young Spock, from "The Menagerie", and miss him a bit. This new one isn't bad.

Storyline... a little shallow in spots, yes. They tried hard to tie all the loose ends into something that would weave into the ST legacy.

Damn, I'm getting old, apparently. Sigh.

 

Ok, if you haven't seen it, hopefully you're not reading this thread. I thought Nero's motivation was lame only because we've seen this before many times. Misguided crazy guy seeks revenge on Federation/human race for something that hasn't happened yet and wasn't really anybody's fault.

Wasn't that basically the Xindi story arc in Enterprise? And his ship was a mining vessel, but also happened to be a totally unconventional and amazingly huge monstrosity, looking almost like it was alive - and armed to the nth degree.

Plus some black holes are good for traveling through time and space, but others are simply deadly?

I can live with Spock necking in an alternative time line but some of the script seemed pretty sloppy and/or unimaginative.

Plus, it was hard not to see Sylar (Heroes) up there on the big screen.

 

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Since I don't wade in the cesspool that is FHOPolitics anymore, I thought I could perhaps take Kow off ignore. I thought wrong.