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HWY MPG for the 2010 Prius. PLEASE HELP!

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Indyking, May 28, 2009.

  1. usbseawolf2000

    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    I am excited to share the Exhaust Heat Recovery System graphs that Ken posted. In 3 to 4 minutes, the heater is putting out over 100 deg F.

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    The Lexus RX450h comes with the same EHRS and from it:

    Source: Lexus Vehicles : Lexus Advances Hybrid Drive with Comprehensive Improvements in New RX 450h / Toyota
     
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    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    2010 Prius has EV button so you can control (engine shutdown) with the right hand as well.
     
  3. ljbad4life

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    well from my own personal experience with an 02 jetta tdi
    and several other posters on your tdi forum:
    02 TDI Problems - TDIClub Forums

    that is just the tip of the iceberg. At the start of this thread(s) I just thought I bought a lemon, but it seems like too many ppl on those forums are having identical problems. All this "discussion" has done has made sure I will never touch another VW again and I will make sure everyone I know is aware of it too.
     
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    You can go as fast as you want but just know the price you pay. These are based on the Iconic Prius model.

    Let's take 65 MPH as baseline. If you go 70 MPH, you are donating 4% of your gas tank into thin air. 75MPH = 8% and 80 MPH = 12%.

    It looks about 4% more consumption every 5 MPH. It will be much worse with Jetta due to higher coefficient drag (0.31 Cd).
     
  5. Indyking

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    I see... but we're taking about a 7 year-old-car... I have to admit that I was really having a hard time finding people with issues with the most recent Jetta TDI models... that's why while I decided to avoid taking the risk of getting a TDI, the true reliability of recent models appear to be uncertain at this point... lots of well-informed onwers claim the new Jetta models have overcome the reliability issue... who knows...
     
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    Very true, but did VW change 100% of the rest of the components especially the electrical? this new tdi has only been out a couple of months... give it a year. like I said it is just the tip of the ice berg. there are people having problems with all the years including the 09. oh and don't dart out into traffic there seems to be a problem with a delay in the throttle response
    http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=224640
    that doesn't sound like quality, autoban tested car to me.
     
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    Back to the original topic: The 2010 will get great mileage at highway speeds. I made the trip at speeds from 55 to some as high as 80mph. The first 130 miles was on 2 lane roads with a 55mph speed limit and several small towns to go through.The pic tells the story:

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  9. Indyking

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    Excellent! That's why I think I can still keep an MPG of at least 50 in my trips to WI even going at 75 or so MPH at times. There are decent stretches of reduced speed areas along the way, which will help me keep that MPG high.
     
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    I agree it's too early to say how the new TDI will do in the reliability issue.

    We already beat this to death, but, what really intrigues me is how brands can be different in different parts of the world. In Brazil, where most of my family lives, the VW brand has been in the top forever and it's not likely to loose its lead anytime soon, despite of massive competition. They have most of the car brands as in the US plus others very competitive like Citroen, Peugeot, Fiat, Renault... still VW are the top sellers there because of their reliability, performance, low cost maintenance, and fuel efficiency (they were the first ones to introduce flex ethanol-gasoline engines). Not that Toyotas are not reliable in Brazil, but they have not been very competitive there, mainly because of the high price and cost of maintenance, and in some cases, lack of overall appeal. My brother in law has a very big (for Brazilian standards) Toyota SUV called SW4, diesel engine, very loud and thirsty too. The car is so unimpressive inside that it still brings a cassette player and we're talking about one of the most expensive cars in the country. My Dad think I'm going crazy by picking a Toyota here over a Jetta, the later has been traditionally a very good car in Brazil, but he wouldn't understand how different these brands are in the US.

    If you look at the list of bestselling cars ever, it's true the Corolla comes first, but among the top 10, there are 3 VWs, which is very impressive, so VW clearly build excellent cars outside the US. ([ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestselling_cars"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestselling_cars[/ame])
    So, I think it's really a shame car companies are unable to keep a standard of quality across all markets...
     
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    European cars are generally less expensive to buy and repair in Brazil than Japanese. It is, of course, the opposite in the US. You are also correct in stating that the way a car is built for different regions affects its reliability.

    That being said, I know how difficult it is to buck a family trend. I bought my first VW beetle, much to the dismay of my dad, who could not understand why I would buy a) foreign, b) small and c) standard shift. He clearly saw that as rebellion - I not only bought a car he didn't approve of, he couldn't drive it or work on it! He was so pleased when we came back into the fold with a Ford Escort in the mid-80's, even though it was a standard. When that car fell apart in short order, we started buying Hondas and never looked back. He continues to buy Mercury, and we continue to buy Honda and now Toyota. We agree to disagree.
    Get the Prius - your dad will get over it :)
     
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    I have seen very little attacks on your posts, I HAVE seen a massive outpouring of corrections of your supposed facts and questions about your methodology. Those are not attacks, "Your mother wears army boots!" is an attack. "One in 40,000 batteries has been replaced so far, since 2001" is a correction.

    Mind you, if you believe that "One in 40,000 batteries has been replaced so far, since 2001" is an attack, or that "They compared a (European) 2007 Prius to a Polo (not even imported into the US), you should not use that data on a 2010 US Prius and a (US) Jetta" is not just correcting your methodology, perhaps the issues are not factual in nature.
     
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    Interesting... I think you may have got lost in the discussion :eek:... we're no longer playing the Jetta vs. Prius battle here.. I decided to get the Prius but I'm still having an open and very productive discussion with some members about some relevant facts about Prius and VWs, mainly around fuel efficiency and reliability... ;)
     
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    He will eventually agree to disagree like you said... but never get over it! :D
     
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    Dads can be sooooo stubborn sometimes. ;)
    Can't wait to take him for a ride in my new Prius, but I know he'll never get one. At almost 81 years old, he's unlikely to give up his Mercury for anything but an electric wheelchair.