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Shooting at Holocaust Museum

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  1. efusco

    efusco Moderator Emeritus
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    Shooting reported at Holocaust Museum in Washington - CNN.com

    A guard and the suspect have both been shot, details are pretty sketchy at this point.

    I find this story particularly interesting b/c my family and I were just in D.C. about a week ago. While we did not visit the Holocaust museum itself, we did have breakfast in the museum's cafeteria before visiting the Bureau of Printing and Engraving which is right next door. We even had a polite encounter with one of the security guys b/c my son and daughter were goofing off on the rear patio area and my daughter fell and scraped her knee. They required us to sign a release of responsibility.

    But one thing my wife and I both took notice of was the very high level of visible security at the Holocaust museum compared to many of the other museums we visited. There were 2-3 officers patrolling the rear area and at least that many at the front/main entrance area outside. I have no idea how many inside, but at least 3 at the visible magnetron scanner area in the rear. We noted that the HM must be considered a pretty high risk facility for terror attacks.

    It certainly appears that the security system worked well in this particular case though it's unfortunate that a guard was injured.

    photo of the rear area where my daughter fell:
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    I wonder if security is always tight or if they have received threats recently?

    Anyway, this is such a shame. A shame to happen anywhere, but especially a shame in a museum where droves of schoolchildren go, and a shame given the reason for the museum in the first place.

    When I went to DC a couple of years ago I never made it to that museum (no one in my family would go with me) but my teenager has since been there on a school trip and said it was a good museum. I am looking forward to going this fall (my oldest is starting college in DC), hopefully on a day when there are no freaks with guns present.
     
  3. efusco

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    We chose not to go for a couple of reasons...
    1) We'd been to Dachau and found it very emotional and difficult.
    2) While our boys are 9 and would probably get something out of the experience, our 4 year old would have a much more difficult time comprehending what she was seeing.
    3) It's impossible to see everything D.C. has to offer, we just had to make compromises.
     
  4. efusco

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    The shooter is being tentatively identified as James Von Brunn, apparently a pretty well known and vocal white supremacist.

    - HITLER’S WORST MISTAKE: By JAMES VON BRUNN
    HITLER’S WORST MISTAKE: By JAMES VON BRUNN

    By Stophypocrisy
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    Photo by isurvived.org
    Because there is no real photographic evidence of “Nazi Gas Chambers” I had to use a painting of the imagination of some paranoid Schizoid.
    Stophypocrisy

    HITLER’S WORST MISTAKE:
    HE DIDN’T GAS THE JEWS.
    JAMES VON BRUNN
    WWW.HOLYWESTERNEMPIRE.ORG

    Remember, the Federal Reserve Act (1913) gave JEWS control of America’s MONEY. Followed by control of America’s main sources of information .
    Early on, during the war-torn 20th Century, the only broadcast networks : ABC, CBS, and NBC — were JEW owned. Today, JEWS control ALL important sources of information (The major networks, Newspapers, Magazines, Book-publishing, Tin-Pan Alley, Music & Recording Industry, Hollywood, Encyclopedia Britannica, Public schools and Universities, the Catholic Church, etc.).
    Bit by bit Liberalism ascended. Bit by bit the Constitution was re-interpreted. Bit by bit government institutions and Congressmen fell into JEW hands — then U.S. diplomacy, businesses, resources and manpower came under JEW control.
    Whitemen sat on their collective asses and did NOTHING - NOTHING BUT TALK. Never before in World history has a Nation so completely been conquered with absolutely NO physical resistance.
    Whites LOVE their Enemies.
    Today, on the World stage, Whitemen are LAUGHED AT, their women bred by stronger men.
    And America ?
    America is a Third-World racial garbage-dump — stupid, ignorant, dead-broke, and terminal.
    Prepare to die, Whitey.
     
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    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:James_von_Brunn]User:James von Brunn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    User: James W. von Brunn, b.1920, attempted to place the Federal Resrve Board of Governors under legal, non-violent citizens arrest, 12-7-81. Von Brunn charged the FED with treason and other high crimes. The FED, a private stock-company, owned by International bankers, financed the construction of manufacturing plants in the Soviet Union during the "Cold War." War materials, produced by FED financed plants, were used by the Enemy against American military forces in Viet Nam, and elsewhere.
    Von Brunn was tried and convicted by a Washington, D.C. kangaroo court; then sentenced to eleven years in federal prison by Judge Harriet Rosen Taylor; the sentence was confirmed by a racially motivated Appeals Court. Von Brunn was imprisoned for 6.5-years.
    Von Brunn champions Western Culture,and the practice of Eugenics. He states that Marxism-Multiculturalism-Judaism is the Enemy of Mankind.citing Talmudic quotes to "Kill the Best Gentiles !"
    Von Brunn was president of his college fraternity, SAE. He served as PT-Boat captain, USNR, during WW2, earning 4-battle stars and a Commendation Ribbon. His early business career was in NYC as copywriter, art-director and film producer; later as a real-estate broker; and lastly as a writer-artist.
    Pls see attchment: FED CAPER.
    This man is suspected of a shooting at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., on June 10, 2009.
     
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    Oh boy .... the nuts are everywhere
     
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    I visited ~ 3 years ago and security was tight. The museum also received a bomb threat during our visit. All visitors were moved to the flame room while security and police swept the museum.

    I suspect the Holocaust Museum tends to bring out the crazies.
     
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    I would imagine security there would be tight all the time - despite the progress that has been made since the Holocaust, there still are a lot of people out there with hatred and prejudice. Sadly, i think we, as a people, will still be dealing with these types of people several hundred years from now. For far too many people things like race, religion, or color provide an easy means to elevate oneself, at least in your own personal image. If they can belittle those millions or billions of people, it just makes them feel more important, more powerful.
     
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    Is the perp 89 years old ?!?
     
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    No, he hasn't had his birthday yet this year. He is only 88 years old.
     
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    Unfortunately, the guard has died. The suspect is being treated for gunshot wounds.

    This guy seems to be an omni-wingnut, believing in a big black-Jewish-Catholic-international-bankers conspiracy controlling everything. I don't think he mentioned the English royal family or the Templars, but I'm sure there in there somewhere.
     
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    How sad that the hero of the museum shooting has passed away and the bigot that entered there with the intent to harm innocents still lives under the care of a Doctor.
     
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    Unfortunately, in this case i don't think a life sentence will be long enough to atone for this guy's crime.
     
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    It's a rare 88 year old who is that angry about anything -- or for long enough to act.
    Not exactly the face of a martyr, but I guess white supremacists have to take what is available.
     
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    This is just so very sad..

    Like Newt said said in Aliens:

    "but there are monsters, aren't there"

    Froley
     
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    I visited the Holocaust Museum, when I was in D.C. last fall and they had some threats at that time, also.

    I guess the neo-nazi freaks just never give up, on a daily basis stirring up violence. And now this....