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  1. daniel

    daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb

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    What I like about reading the newspaper on the Kindle:

    Don't get my hands dirty.
    Don't have to fumble with the too-large-to-handle format.
    Font size of my choosing.
    No paper to have to recycle.
    I'm not personally responsible for felling one old-growth tree per day for the paper.

    What I don't like:

    Missing the easy overview of a whole big page.
    Missing the photos & (when the print version has them) graphs.

    Overall, it's a big positive.

    It was written by two authors in collaboration. One wrote a backstory about the guy, and narrated his latest murder. The other author did not get to see it before writing his backstory and one murder narration about the girl, which the first did not get to see. Then they took turns writing segments about the encounter of the two. So as the characters meet, neither author knows anything about his character's opponent.

    But it is very graphic. If you don't like slasher movies, you won't like this short story. Unfortunately, it's only available for the Kindle. I don't know if Amazon sells Kindle books readable on a computer without the Kindle. If they do, check it out. The story is free, probably as a teaser for the authors' other books. It worked for me: I've already bought a book by one of them.

    And since this is my first Kindle book, I don't know if all of them have this, but at the end of the book there are samples of two other books. Basically a chapter. All or most Kindle books offer a free sample chapter. This basically throws a sample in your face, but you can ignore it if you like.
     
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    Hi have looked online re kindle and it seems Amazon will not sell outside the US. Is this because it is set up for US newspapers. We quite often find that the US is very narrow minded to the outside world. Like we do not exist. I am probably way off track here. Please excuse my ignorance if this is not the case.
     
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    Often narrow minded? How about almost always narrow minded. The U.S. is to the rest of the world as New Yorkers are to the rest of the U.S. Even when we try to do things from a world perspective, we often cock it up from lack of understanding.

    Tom
     
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    I guess I am probably the same when it comes to my knowledge of other countries. I feel like we know America, and Americans so well because it is on our TV sets 24 hours a day. But I presume that you would hardly ever watch shows made in Australia.
     
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    I don't have a TV, so I don't watch shows made anywhere, but I think I've seen a couple of Aussie movies and enjoyed them.

    As for the Kindle, Amazon will not sell them outside the US, but I am sure it's not by choice. There are probably either patent issues or trade issues. And the Kindle is basically intended as a wireless device, but the wireless service is only in the U.S. You can download content to your computer and then move it to the Kindle, but most (much? a lot? some?) of the price is for the wireless service. If they sold it outside the country, people would demand wireless service for it, and Amazon cannot provide that.

    Not sure. That might be the explanation. Try sending an email to Amazon or phoning them, and asking outright: what's the reason?
     
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    You don't have a TV! WOW. Do you go to the cinema to watch Movies, or do you watch them at home ?
     
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    I would say very little, if any, of the cost of the Kindle is for the wireless service. Rather, the wireless service cost is most likely baked into the price of the media you purchase. Consider the data plan for my iPhone. $30/month (yeah, it's a lot), and yet last month i downloaded almost 200MB over the wireless network. If all you're downloading are books (which are mostly just plain text), you won't get anywhere near that amount.
     
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    Most likely because we don't get them here (generally). I believe even "Flight of the Conchords" (I know - a Kiwi group, not Oz) is produced in the US by HBO.

    That said, many British shows have a strong following in the US thanks to the BBC's distribution of them via public television, DVD and a dedicated cable channel (BBC America).

    Bev, if there's one thing American companies have never been accused of it's turning down the opportunity to make easy money. I agree with others who say it's more likely a result of technical and business hurdles rather than laziness or ignorance on Amazon's part.

    Believe me if they could put a Kindle in the hands of every single man, woman, and child on every single continent on this planet they would.
     
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    I have a projector and watch movies at home. I much prefer that to going to a theater. I can pause and re-wind; I can shut it off and go to the bathroom. Last night I watched an hour of a movie, got tired, shut it off, read my Kindle for a while, and went to bed. This evening I'll watch the last half hour, unless I get absorbed in a book and put the movie off another day. Can't do that in a theater. The flexibility is worth the reduced video quality. And I control the volume.

    It's true that a book is not a lot of data, but the Kindle also allows unlimited free web browsing, though it's not a good platform for it. And it has direct links to Google and Wikipedia. Select a word or type one in and hit the Google or Wikipedia button.

    And there are free samples of all the books, and 14-day free trials of all the magazines and newspapers.
     
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    Two more observations about the Kindle:

    Compared to reading a book, the Kindle is easier on my hands. I am starting to get arthritis. Holding a book open forces me to exert my hands in a rotational manner that becomes painful. The Kindle is a flat object which does not have to be held open, and is therefore easier on my hands.

    Compared to reading on a computer screen, the Kindle allows me a more natural posture. Rather than sitting in my office chair, slumped forward to get my face closer to the screen, I can sit in a comfortable easy chair, as I would with a book, and change my position from time to time.
     
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    i killed my TV, but i still have netflix. i also got a "netbox" which allows streaming over the internet for a kind of "instant view, on demand" type setup. it was $100 and unlimited free service as long as i keep my "3 movies at a time, $17.95 a month" netflix subscription going.

    granted the instant view selection is less than a fifth the size of the DVD selection, but still not bad... picture quality is lacking sometimes though and really noticeable on older stuff. i watched a documentary about a doctor living in california that literally became a beach bum, following the surf with his wife AND EIGHT CHILDREN in a camper van. the movie was made in the late 60's or early 70's and picture quality was terrible, but not sure the DVD would have been any better.

    i like netflix because it has a very large selection of foreign flicks. documentaries, etc. and that list grows daily. i told myself that when i cant find anything good to watch (have only done 3 repeats only because someone wanted to see something i had already rented) i would dump the subscription since i long ago, got my money out of the netbox, but that was more than 3 years ago and the steady stream of new movies to DVD have kept me going.

    have also done a lot of tv shows, including ones i could not stand when they were broadcast. i find much easier to watch when all the commercials are removed.
     
  12. daniel

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    I considered getting a netbox, but I think the video quality is inferior to DVDs, so I figured I'd stick with DVDs. If I have no DVD on hand, I can rent one from the local place, or better yet, read a book (or my Kindle).

    I really prefer reading a magazine on my Kindle because the glare of glossy paper is hard on my eyes. Age, I suppose.
     
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    ya netbox video is waaay inferior... they have upgraded to "HD" when available (mostly newer stuff) but its 720 i so not all that "high"... i watch all my DVD's that have been upscanned to 1080 i (well downstairs... only TV upstairs does 1080 P)
     
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    I figure the Kindle is just another fad-based, mostly-useless gadget. I spend a lot of time reading - mostly scientific journals. I'd still rater read them on my tablet PC or on paper.

    Also - I'd rather not spend EVEN MORE TIME with a cellular radio near my person.
     
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    Having had my Kindle for a year, you will have to pry it from my cold, dead hands. As for the tablet PC, you couldn't pay me to use mine to read "Ben-Hur."

    My 3G wireless function is turned on only when I'm downloading in a few seconds my new copy of "Complete Adventures of Sherlock Holmes." I must admit even so, my wireless phone is with me a lot more of the time than my Kindle.
     
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    You can turn off the radio. It's only needed during download.

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    turning off the radio when not needed should also extend battery life quite a bit
     
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    Dude, you are surrounded by so much RF if you live in a city, that one more cell phone is minuscule!

    I actually leave the radio on most of the time so I can quickly look up a word or place name that's not in the dictionary. Then I plug it in at night, because, yes, it does deplete the battery.

    As far as being a fad, I assure you, e-book readers are here to stay. It's just too convenient: periodicals delivered wirelessly wherever you are, books delivered sixty seconds after you place the order, and it's just plain easier to hold than a book if you have arthritis, not to mention adjustable size type if you have old eyes. I really like the New Yorker, but those glossy pages are really hard for me to read now. Not with the Kindle, though: it's much easier to read.

    There are still some shortcomings, such as the lack of most images in most Kindle periodicals, and the lack of a directory structure in a device that can hold 3,500 books. But those things will improve, and the price will come down if our economy does not self-destruct and send us back to the stone age.

    E-book readers will not replace books, but they will be a significant and popular gadget for reading. And while a computer may have advantages for scientific papers, e-ink is MUCH easier on the eyes than a computer screen.
     
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    There is a surprising number of books available for free at the Kindle store. Some authors give away a book in hopes that you will like it enough to buy their other books. I have already bought two after reading the authors' free books. But there are also some classics available free. I just downloaded Uncle Tom's Cabin and also Treasure Island for free.

    They also give you a free sample of any book. I have bought a couple, and rejected a couple, after reading the sample. Amazon sells most Kindle books for ten bucks, but a lot of lesser-known authors sell their books for a buck or two. If you want to read newly-published books from best-selling authors, you'll pay ten bucks a pop. But if you like to experiment, there are some really good books out there really cheap.
     
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    Best thing since Gutenberg!

    I've had my Kindle DX for three weeks now, and I've got to say this is the best thing since Johannes Gutenberg invented movable type. With its rigid flat form (does not flop closed like a print book) and adjustable print size it is easier to read than a print book. I'll be taking another trip and I have ten books on the thing (3 or 4 of which were free, so I downloaded them without looking to see if they were any good) and free sample chapters of two others. Due to weight, I've never been able to take so many books with me on a trip. And this is not counting my New Yorker subscription.

    I actually find myself reading more than I have for many years, now that the eyestrain of small type is no longer an issue. This thing was well worth the $531 (including tax).