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I put the wrong oil filter but it works!

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by mlibanio, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. mlibanio

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    Hello everyone,
    I have recently done an oil change, and screwed up when I bought the filter. Prius normally takes Fram XG4967. However, I accidentally bought XG3614!! And the crazy thing is... IT MOUNTS AND FITS PERFECTLY! No overhang from the sides or anything. Its the about same circumferance, but its just a bit deeper. My brother is a mechanic, and he told me that because its deeper, I will get superior filtration, but that it should be fine. I have been driving for two days, no leaks either! What does everybody think? I think it should be fine, but it would be nice to hear other input.
     
  2. taggart

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    Wait for it, it will come. I expect at least 3 replies telling you that the only problem with this filter is the brand name.
     
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    You are probably fine, but there is more than fit to oil filters.
    Some have "anti-flowback" valves inside, among other slight differences. Which is why Fram has the two part numbers. If one would fit two vehicles, you can be sure Fram would only make one, because it's cheaper!

    To back up the post above, Fram is nothing if not cheap! ;)
     
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    No worries, Toyota sells two oil filters of the same circumference but differing lengths. The shorter length is correct for Prius but some owners have used the longer length filter.

    Toyota also sells oil filters of larger circumference and some Prius owners have used those filters without incident (although I personally would not recommend doing so.)
     
  5. PriusLewis

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    What do you mean by "change the oil and filter?" Doesn't it have lifetime oil? That's what my sister and our son believe...

    :pound:
     
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    Wth?


    u foreal?
     
  7. sambojoho

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    Yeah, you are fine. I used to use the 3614 sized filter on my Corolla all the time, which specs the 4967 also. The only real difference other than size is a slightly larger gasket circumference on the 3614, but Toyota gives you plenty of extra flange to make the gasket of the 3614 fit just fine.

    And Taggart is right, there are much better filters for your money than Fram. I would recommend Supertech ST4967 or the ST3614 for a better built filter for less money. For about the same money as the Fram, you could get a Wix or a Purolator PureOne, which are both far superior in construction, filtering ability, and filter media capacity.
     
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    Yep! Our son drove a Chevy S-10 for, like, 50,000 miles without a change or adding oil. It finally got low enough to blink the oil pressure light occasionally, at which time he added a quart. Not that he didn't know better, he was just too lazy to actually change the oil or have someone else change it. My sister seems to have come to the conclusion that if you don't think about an issue, it is no longer an issue. Don't know how long she has gone without changing the oil in her Mazda clunker, but it has to have been months or a year.

    As for me, all my cars get serviced when recommended, and the Prius gets Mobile 1. I'd rather not spin a rod bearing like our son did on my Neon ACR from never checking the oil or changing it!
     
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    Aslong as the gasket fits securely, its fine.

    FRAM SUCKS!!!!! :)
     
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    Nobody has ever shown Fram filters to cause engine damage or premature wear. Agree that build quality is marginal and cheap, but no ill effects.
     
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    As long as the filter does not come apart on the inside or the gasket leak and you change your oil often it should not make any difference on the filter you use.

    There was a study done many years ago on oil flow and the cheap filters had better oil flow and clogged up less often. I am sure Mobil 1 has solved those issues but food for thought.
     
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    I agree also that Fram build quality is marginal and cheap. However, they are not really the least expensive around. My contention is there are better quality filters for LESS or the same money than a Fram. Examples are Valucraft, Motorcraft, Supertech, Purolator Premium Plus, AC Delco, Quaker State, etc...
     
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    Some Toyota dealers offer great prices on Toyota-branded filters for web orders. For example, Champion Toyota in Houston offers a case of 10 filters for $32.90 plus shipping.
    Champion ToyotaWorld

    The minimum shipping charge is $10, but if you also buy a few air filters or other stuff that you will need in the future, that will leverage the shipping cost.
     
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    Just curious -- Did you and your sister grow up in West Virginia?
     
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    That's why today's cars are mostly equipped with Maint. Light and yea, Tire Pressure Monitoring too (like our Prius do)....to remind people cars do require routine checking.
     
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    Direct tire pressure monitoring is mandated by law (MY 08), after that whole Explorer/Firestone thing.
     
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    But getting lazy people to actually DO the maintenance can be a trick. I don't know how many cars I've pulled up next to at a traffic light, glanced over and there's at least one bright red light on their dash. I've known friends who drive around with the "check engine" light on for the entire time they own a car.
     
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    No, it's not. I moved here 2 years ago and can't wait to get out. :(
     
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    If it threads on, and seals up to the flat area, then it should work. I just changed my oil for the first time yesterday, and noticed that the vehicle could probably use many different filters.