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Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by spiderman, Aug 2, 2009.

  1. spiderman

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    Hi all,
    Just washed my Blizzard White today and found a mess on the rear quarter panels just behind the wheels. It appears like road oil/grime sprayed in water. Washing with my car wash did not remove it. :mad:
    I assume it is road oil because there is some freshly surfaced road near by. Before I use some nasty remover, anyone have a sure fire method to remove that stuff? Hate to ruin the finish. Here are some photos but I suspect it will be hard to see.
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    Before buying anything, just try some car wash at full strength on it. Put some on your wash mit and with a little water rub it around and see if it removes it. Car wash full strength will strip any wax you may have had in that area, but you can reapply that fairly easy...

    If that does not work, a mild polish would remove that... Clay probably would too but that usually removes stuff you can feel, can you feel it is there?

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    or one of my favorite mild polishe and sealant in one for daily drivers:

    Z-AIO All-in-one: Zaino Store
     
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    We had a real situation here recently, with a rainstorm that occurred right after they had applied some sealant step to fresh pavement. Long story short, every car that went over this stretch, including my day old Blizzard Pearl IV, got covered with a brown, oily tar stuff. A lot of people had to have a full detailing (on the state's dime :() to remove the stuff. Fortunately, since I don't follow too close or go too fast, Gidget (that's my IV's name) didn't get it as bad as a lot of cars, but she did get hit around the wheel wells pretty good. We used a spray bug and tar remover by Turtle Wax that worked very well. It removed the stuff instantly and it claims not to strip the wax, either. I can't vouch for the wax stripping or lack thereof, as I hadn't even waxed her yet, but it definitely took the goop off pretty easily - no hard rubbing at all. We were careful to use light pressure and keep turning the rag so that grit did not get ground into the paint and we used a toothbrush to get into some of the seams between panels.

    Unfortunately, as we were studying really close to make sure we cleared the tar goop, we discovered that there are some flaws in the paint that we didn't notice during the pickup inspection. They look like light tan splatters embedded in the clearcoat, behind the front tires at the bottom of the fender. I thought they might be remnants of the tar, but they are something else entirely - one body shop guy I asked called it "rail dust". Whatever it is, it won't come off without buffing off most of the clearcoat, and I'd rather live with a few tiny spots than have a brand new car resprayed, so I'm going to pretend I never saw them.

    As far as your problem goes though, the Turtle Wax should take care of it without too much trouble, if its anything like the stuff we drove through. Good luck!
     
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    it could also be the tire cleaner or shinner that you use. we have a blizzard white also and when we purchased the car, the dealer put some tire shine and the next day i saw some brown spot on the same place and i tried to remove it but i couldnt, i had to use a pc to remove it. good luck
     
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    Try claying that rail dust. It can't hurt, and you'd be surprised what it can pull out of the surface of the clearcoat.
     
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    Agreed, the clay will remove rail dust very easily...
     
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    That is odd, I see those specs too! In some cases I can actually feel them sticking up. I will have to do some research on that rail dust.

    I will also try the bug remover too. Say, did that do anything to the finish at all (dullin it)?

    Thanks a ton,
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    Before trying/buying tar and bug remover (unless you have it on hand already) try some car wash soap at full strength. Mine removes tar and bugs with no problem, I've never had to buy tar/bug remover...
     
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    Tried that and it didn't even phase it. I can feel the stuff on the surface (kind of sticky).
     
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    It's been raining a lot here lately and Gidget lives outside, so not the best conditions to judge the shine of the finish in detail. But from what I could tell, the Turtle Wax Bug & Tar Remover did not dull the finish at all. If anything, it left behind a very light coat of wax - looked great after.
     
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    You must use some serious car wash, or the surface is so waxed that bugs just slide off (like mine lately after the Klasse AIO and sealant application). What do you use?:confused:


    And WD40 is a good tar/bug remover.
     
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    Dang, oh well worth a shot before having to buy something. I wouldn't worry about any of the currently sold tar removal products out there, I'm sure it'll be clearcoat safe.
     
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    Lol, yeah I always run several coats of Zaino on my paint as well as after each wash drying with spray on wax sprayed on. For bugs that have been on there a few days if say on a road trip, I just dilute some car wash 50/50 with water in a spray bottle, spray the front of the car side mirrors etc let it sit a minute or so and then wash the area with a mit instead of my usual board hair brush. They just come right off...
     
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    I'll use a quick detailer spray like Eagle One or Meguiar's and they slide right off.

    But as I suspected, yours is almost effortless because of the prior surface prep.:p
     
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    Try bug & tar remover. Rain-X gel works great. Naturally, you'll need to wash & wax afterward.
     
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    I'm not sure if my brown dots are really rail dust. They don't look like little round spots, so much as splatters - you can see the direction they were sprayed from the tire. Staining from a tire dressing would fit better with the pattern, but nothing would take it off, not even a light polishing compound :( I will give the clay a try though - it's new to me, but seems to be recommended lots of places.
     
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    Ran up to WalleyWorld and got the Rain-X gel. Sprayed it on, let sit for 2-3 minutes and wiped off taking that oil with it. Had to do two treatments but it is all gone! Thanks Stream and all for the suggestions!:)

    Now on to the "rail dust". After doing some web research I am worried about that stuff. Apparently left to sit, it will works it way into the paint and down to the metal causing premature rusting. Read a post about someone with a Camry trying to get Toyota to do something about it and they would not saying it was a dealer problem. Well I am going to let me dealer look at it and see what they say. If nothing, I will try the Clay bar treatment and see what happens.

    Good night,
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    read my reply again, this happened to my pearl prius. brand new and the dealer wash it and applied tire shine on it before i left the dealer. the next day, i prep the car with quick detailer and saw the same brown splash pattern. i tried wiping it with quick detailer but no luck so i used my pc and its gone.