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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Rybold, Aug 23, 2009.

  1. Rybold

    Rybold globally warmed member

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    Miles Per Kilowatt. (or this could be a chance to standardize the world, by saying KPM)
    Or, should it be kilowatt-hours? MPKH? KHPM?
    (kilowatt-hours would confuse the heck out of the general public. Oh well. It's about time they started learning something about math and science)

    Okay, this is the last thread on the Volt. I'm getting sick and tired of Volt threads (yes, I'm aware I've just created another:(). The Toyota threads really are ten times more entertaining than GM threads. Why? Because at least we know it's for real.

    This is a good article (I wouldn't have bothered posting another:( Volt article, if it wasn't good) This is good:

    How the Chevy Volt Will Transform Fuel Economy - Yahoo! News
     
    #1 Rybold, Aug 23, 2009
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    Hi Rybold,

    Miles per Kilowatt confuses the heck out of me!!!

    There is no need to molly-coddle the general public on technical terms. Indeed, its usually such molly-coddling that makes all so confusing to the general public. It should be Miles per Killowatt-HOUR.
     
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    Rybold globally warmed member

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    Agreed. :)

    So, if you have two horses, then is it miles per bale of hay? :D
    (hay = good old fashion solar power)
     
    #3 Rybold, Aug 24, 2009
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    If you are talking about standardising something why not use standard units of measurement? why not metres per kilowatt hour or metres per kilojoule?
     
    #4 patsparks, Aug 24, 2009
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    MJ would be preferable to kWh, but the public is more familiar with kWh. After all, how many dieters do you know who talk about their intake in Joules rather than (kilo)calories.
     
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    MPC, Miles Per Calorie! hahaha. :D

    I think mpJ sounds best; meters per joule. At this turning point in technology, we actually have the opportunity to get the general public on the metric and S.I. system. I hope the auto makers and EPA do the right thing here.
     
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    Can you imagine, the whole world using the same measurement system?!
     
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    or all drive on the same side of the road??
     
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    What if we simply tried to find a way to talk about miles per charge? This fully charged EV will average xx miles whereas this other one xxx miles. Then if someone changes batteries or adds batteries, their miles per charge will change.
     
    #9 TonyPSchaefer, Aug 25, 2009
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    Easily, there are only three countries not yet officially converted to the metric system: Myanmar, Liberia, and the United States (réf. [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system]Metric system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]). Yet, this is like hoping for Microsoft to adopt standards! :rolleyes:
     
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    kWh per km (or mile if we must) to go with l / 100 km or gallons / 100 miles. Using energy or fuel per distance doesn't make it any harder to calculate the cost of driving a vehicle, and it makes it far easier to see that small improvements at low efficiencies have a bigger bang than big improvements at high efficiencies. Upgrading from 45mpg to 50mpg saves just 0.22 gallons over 100 miles while upgrading from 20mpg to 25mpg saves an entire gallon (see The MPG Illusion).
     
    #11 brighterplanet, Aug 26, 2009
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