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Aptera = 3 Wheel Car. Now, 4 Wheel Motorcycles!

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by Rokeby, Nov 1, 2009.

  1. Rokeby

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    I think it is only right that Uncle Sam found a way to qualify the
    Aptera for Federal high mileage vehicle funds by legaly defining it as a
    "enclosed three-wheeled cars that can average at least 75 mpg (or
    equivalent, for plug-in models) and are designed to carry at least two
    adults."

    All well and good. But did you you know that there are now four-wheel
    motorcycles being developed in Europe?

    There's the $65K, 167 HP BMW k1200 powered GG Quadster (Michael
    Jordan owns two.):

    gg-quadster-quad-0.jpg

    However, it doesn't even hold a candle to the $285K, 500HP, BMW V-
    12 powered Wazuma Bio V-12:



    OK, Uncle Sam concedes a 3-wheel car. I wonder how likely it is that
    there will ever be a legally/regulatory recognized 4-wheel motorcycle.
    Especially since the Ariel Atom allegedly is street legal in the USofA:



    Links:
    Three-Wheelers Will be Eligible for DOE Funds
    The GG Quadster - a four-wheeled, 167-horsepower quad bike for the road
    Faster and Faster: Lazareth Wazuma: 500bhp BMW V12-powered quad
    Welcome to Ariel Atom
     
  2. PriusLewis

    PriusLewis Management Scientist

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    Not without major revisions to DOT, EPA and NHTSA regulations. 3 wheels has always been considered a motorcycle, thus avoiding all the safety and emissions requirements of cars. If they try to define vehicles by other than wheel count, I can't imagine our government being able to handle such a complex concept ("OK, it has one, two...two wheels. The book says that's a motorcycle...").
     
  3. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    The Aptera makes perfect sense, and it's great news that the government has found a way to help its production along. But that Wazuma aberration only proves there are no limits to man's automotive insanity.
     
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    Oops! In the 4-wheeled motor cycle offerings, I failed to include the
    American made, $555K, 500 HP, V-10 Viper powered Tomahawk:

    tomahawk-again.jpg

    Fully operational, but not street legal.

    "Donald Poindexter, Jr., noted that the Tomahawk isn’t really a
    motorcycle, at least not by American standards: the National Highway
    Traffic Safety Administration proclaims that a motorcycle can have no
    more that 3 wheels on the ground during normal operation. 'For the
    Tomahawk to have been sold in the U.S. for road use, it would have
    had to pass all of the automobile safety standards. Had the engineers
    replaced one of the tire pairs (either front or back) with a single tire
    (for a total of three), it would have been a motorcycle, although I
    think the lights might have been in violation of the regulations.' "


    And some interesting historical precedent for the Tomahawk, the 1935
    Plymouth 6 cylinder flathead powered world record attempt bike:

    Plymouth motorcycle

    And as a 2-wheled wonderment, the 2009 motorcycle world land speed
    record setter at 367 MPH (two-way average), the BUB Seven
    Streamliner:



    Links:

    Allpar.com : Dodge Tomahawk motorcycle introduction
    BUB 7 Streamliner - Two-Wheels, No Wings - Flyin' To A New Record
     
  5. a_gray_prius

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    It is very legal and it is very AWESOME (especially if you get to drive the one with the Integra Type-R engine). You just have to drive it to understand (assuming you are able to drive a car for fun, many people do not).