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removing front door 6x9 speakers

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by WaterbedWarrior, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. WaterbedWarrior

    WaterbedWarrior Going insane!

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    Made some speaker standoffs for the 6x9's had to add a small shim to get the right distance from the back of the speaker to the glass when rolled down, only 1/10th of an inch of clearance. Had to keep it close so I could get the door panel back on without having to take a heat gun to it.

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    Mounted them utilizing machine screws with the locking nuts with the plastic in their threads so they won't work loose and sealed the standoffs in place with an adhesive caulk (the white stuff).
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    Speaker in place with extra sound deadening to the door. I removed the factory speaker plug, added some speaker wire to allow me to route the wire through the hole in the top right of the door that the power window cable goes through then down the door and connected to the speaker. When I hookup the amp, will just tie into the junction box in the passenger kickpanel. Additionally the squawkers are wired in separate from that junction, so can disconnect the 6x9, amp them and leave the squawkers playing off the head unit. Door panel went back on with no problems.

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    Pic of my pioneer head unit connected and powered up. I used a standard Toyota wiring adapter. Hooked up with no problems. I have to go pick up some 8mm x 5mm screws to mount the head unit to the stock brackets, then can reassemble the dash and take it for a spin, provided it all still works.
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    Still tons of work to do though. Gotta get the drivers side speaker installed, amps wired and installed, and subwoofer box finished.

    More updates as they happen. Any questions let me know.

    Brian
     
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  2. radioprius1

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    Hi Brian,

    Thanks for the update! I have a couple of questions:

    1. What thickness wood did you use to cut the 6x9 speaker standoffs? (Or what's the overall thickness of the standoff now?)

    2. Why did you have to run the speaker wire through the door and into the cabin? What prevented you from just tying the amp into the stock speaker cable inside the cabin?

    Thank you again, a great read!
     
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    Oh, do we know what size speakers are in the rears? 6x9s?

    I'm looking to do something but I like to keep things simple (and cheap).

    Would this work:

    Run the stock head unit speaker outputs to a 4 channel amplifier (that has speaker level inputs) and then run to the front and rear speakers. Super simple, super basic. Do you think that would sound nice? Even if I lost the factory "tweeters" I'm sure a nice pair of 6x9s in the front would more than make up for it.
     
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    By searching this site I found the back speakers have a diameter of like 6.3 inches, so basically a 5 inch speaker will fit there fine with a nice little baffle thing.
     
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    I pulled my doors off this morning to see how the stereo shop put the 6x9s in. They used these plastic baffle things. I guess they had them in stock, or perhaps they came with the rockford fosgate 6x9s. I don't know. Or did they cannibalize the stock 6x9s? Whatever they did it works incredibly well!
     

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    VERY nice thread...

    A few questions:

    1. You mention 6x9 - but from the pictures, they look more like 6" or 9" round - not a traditional 6x9 oval.......

    2. Can you measure the actual speaker dimensions, or get a part number etc off it??? This will help to get a good cross reference for other speakers that can be dropped in......

    TIA!!!!
     
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    Hi!

    The fronts are definitely 6x9 ovals. The part number for the fronts 6x9s are: Rockford Fosgate Punch P1694. I did a quick search and the mount depth is 3".

    The rears (not pictured - I need to take the door off and check it out) are 6.5" round are Rockford Fosgate Punch P1653

    Here is a link to the thread detailing the equipment they installed: link

    I hope this helps!
     
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    Darn. Not quite the easy job I hoped after my passenger door's speaker started buzzing a lot last weekend. Not a constant thing yet, but on some stations it's really bad due to their bass range.

    It's just going to have to wait for complete failure I guess, then I'll HAVE to get it done.

    Thanks for the heads-up on what's involved...
     
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    They canibalized the stock 6x9's. I wasn't sure how well that would work. Looks like it worked fine.

    Sorry no update in a while been working 7 days a week. :(
     
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    Any idea how they did that? How is the speaker part of the original speaker attached to the plastic bracket? Looks really good RadioPrius1's pics...
     
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    What happened to the subwoofer box update and pics.
     
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    Sorry man, work has been keeping me busy. The back of the box is done. I gotta cut a subwoofer mounting ring from MDF. Mount it and then fiberglass it into the front. It will come. Suppose to have this weekend off, so will see what progress I can make.
     
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    would changing the door speakers alone improve the sound quality?



    and how much an improvement?
     
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    Question regarding swapping speakers for a non-JBL system:

    If I'm swapping 6x9" in the front door, what do you with the dash mounted squawkers? Are they simply disconnected? Is the signal going to the 6x9" full range or is there a crossover somewhere? I'm curious because it makes no sense to drop in a full range 3 way 6x9" coaxial speaker if the signal is midrange.

    For those who have upgrade to component speakers:

    Where have you mounted your tweeters? I'm not keen on custom molded panels for the A-pillars. Can't they just go where the squawkers are? Surface mount is okay but I'd like to see some easy flush mounts.
     
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    I've looked at this a bit {IMHO} you really should have something up front. If you look back a bit, I took some pics, and you should be able to put a 3" in the space of the squaker. I believe you'll almost get more from that than the 6x9 - but they should be done as a pair...

    Crutchfield has a matched pair (1" and 6x9 Clarion SRP6920M Platinum Series 6"x9" component system at Crutchfield.com ) for like $80 on sale (off brand - but should be good). Your other choice is to find a 6x9 and 3" with similar sensitivities - and get a passive cross-over - when I upgrade, I'll go that route... I found a new head unit does make even the cheap speakers sound OK.

    You really should get a 3" up front - it will take a bit of surgery - but it will be worth it in the long run...

    Keep in mind - if they aren't loud enough (sensitivity), you are talking external amps...
     
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    Thanks rrolff for the reply. But I'm missing something here......If I put in a 3" driver in the squawker location, I still need a separate tweeter right? The 3" is more like a midrange. And then maybe a separate bass driver in the 6x9" door location? Or is the 3" a 2way-coaxial speaker?


    And the Crutchfield Clarion example you gave me: Does the 1" tweeter go in the squawker location?
     
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    I found the front tweeter removal thread and most of my ? are answered.
     
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    What is the model # and where can I get this standard wire harness? I am replacing my JBL HU with aftermarket HU and bypassing the factory JBL amp with an aftermarket amp. I need to only get power & ground to my aftermarket hu, will this wire harness work?
     
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    Did you run the new amp to the existing speaker wire? How many watts per channel is your amp? I am trying to decide if I need to replace the stock wires or if I can keep the stock speaker wires with my new amp (100w x 4)?