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Think I'll have issues replacing only 2 tires?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by F8L, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. F8L

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    I found a nail in the shoulder of my passenger rear Nokian i3 today. Pressure was down to 23psi so it is not holding air well. I took it by a tire center to confirm my suspicion that the nail is too close the the sidewall and the techician pointed out the slight bulge in the sideall from the body of the nail. :(

    So now I am faced with two choices:

    A. Buy two new tires. I would likely purchase the Ecopia EP100 or the db Super E-Spec tires (being made of oranges is pretty cool).

    B. Buy 1 new Nokian i3 as a replacement since most of the other tires still have a lot of tread on them and are not even to the halfway mark yet.

    I'm broke and have another surgery coming up in March as well as the fact my grant from Kaiser will run out so I'm back to paying copays again and cannot afford 4 new tires.

    Any opinions you would like to share? :)
     
  2. JimN

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    I had the same problem & replaced the 1 tire. No handling problems.
     
  3. F8L

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    Thanks Jim. I just put these wheel/tires back on the car so the 2 with the most tread were already on the rear so I am thinking I'll be ok. I believe the Nokian i3 treadwear indicators bar starts at #8 and the good rear tire is worn 3/4 through the #7.
     
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    Here is the the way tire replacement goes, in order, from Best to Worst IAW manufacture specs:

    1) buy all 4 same brand and size. (Best)

    2) buy 2 and put them on the REAR of the vehicle. (Do not put the new tires on the front).

    3) buy 1 and place it on the rear opposite the best tire left from the original set of 4.

    It is always best to keep same brand and series of tire, because the same size of two different manufactures are in truth - two different size tires.
     
  5. a_gray_prius

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    Maybe not a bad idea to post some "WTB: one nokian i3 tire, Sacramento/Bay Area" threads on Craigslist?
     
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    Hey, I assume that you cannot get the tire fixed or plugged? That would be the absolute cheapest way. If you have just one or two tires that are worn and the others are fine it should be perfectly acceptable. Especially because the manual calls for rotating the tires back to front, and not diagonally side to side.

    Good luck, :)
     
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    brad_rules_man Hybrid electric revolutionizer

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    I am ridiculous when it comes to reading things. Sometimes for some reason I totally miss lines of data. I blame it on that eye-q program that taught me to speed read. I scan the lines like 3-5 at a time and only get a general idea of what I'm reading. HAHA

    I'd go with two if you can take that hit, otherwise just do the one wheel and I'm sure you'll live. hehe
     
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    Not a bad idea although I have a feeling finding a single Nokian in this area and in my size will be tough. lol

    Brad, I am thinking along the same lines. Just using 1 new tire should be fine. :)

    UGC, that has always been my understanding as well. I figured I'd pass it before the others and see what they think since the Prius can be fairly "particular" when it comes to handling. lol
     
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    Yeah, I must warn you though! Keep it under 100mph. HAHA
     
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    I replaced two, however, I plan on replacing the remaining two at some point this year to match. I switched to Energy Saver A/S, and it was a "no time like the present" moment.
     
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    I always heard that you put the best 2 tires in front, to better prevent a blow out, so you will handle the car better if the front tires are good in the event of a (rear) blow out.
     
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    According to car talk the best tires go on the back
     
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    I feel the same and just said screw it and ordered a new set of 4. I will take time to find a single replacement Nokian for later use when I am dead broke. lol

    I'll get them on and give a full report as I break them in. I went with the Yokohama dB Super E-Spec (orange) tires. :D
     
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    They're made from oranges? Let us know what the tire smoke smells like! ;)

    The best tires go on the back? Even with front wheel drive? That sounds weird.

    I would have phoned around and replaced just the one, but then I can be without a car for a few days (or weeks) if I need to. You could turn the 3 Nokians into a planter on the deck for now, though they're probably best kept indoors for when you want to use them on the car again. How about a laundry hamper in the corner? :cool:
     
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    LOL!

    Yeah, the tires with the best traction go in the rear because you will have a harder time recovering from a slide if your rear tires are bald than if the fronts were. Think fishtailing here.

    The Nokians will just stay in storage until I find a replacement and then when the new ones wear down I can swap em or I will sell them to a friend with a Prius since he is usually broke too.
     
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    Soon you'll know if you prefer the colour of burnt orange, or the smell. ;)

    If I had to choose between the two, I think I'd take oversteer (rear slides first, aka fishtailing) over understeer (front end slides first). I've tried both, on two wheels and four, and I'd have to say I prefer a bit of drifting over not having the steering do what it's told. Maybe it's learned behaviour, but steering into a skid seems less stressful than just sitting there patiently waiting for the fronts to find some grip. Ideally, the tires should match and the handling should be balanced so this doesn't happen, right? :)
     
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    For hard corning you may be right but in the case of hydroplaning I think I'd rather have the rear end connected to the ground. Either way is bad juju though. :(

    More fun with orange-based tire compound!

     
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    Much safer to put the better pair at the rear. Understeer is nature's way of telling you to slow down; oversteer is nature's way of telling you you're going to die.

    One of the beauties of front wheel drive is that the front pair almost always wear faster, and so the only time anything needs rotating is when the front pair have worn out and must be replaced (by the old rear pair).
     
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    Sidewall punctures are not good to try and patch, especially if there is already a bulge in the rubber. In the desert, we constantly patched tires (tread patch) to keep from wasting tires that still had life left in them, but when you have a sidewall puncture the tire is done for.

    I would personally suggest finding a scrap yard if the budget is tight, I bought two almost new identical tires (came from the same wreck) for my minivan for $40 when I treked across Alaska getting to New Mexico. I also bought a truck tire that i'd trust on the road any day of the week for $30 from the same folks.