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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications' started by Godiva, Jul 14, 2005.

  1. Godiva

    Godiva AmeriKan Citizen

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    While I've decided I am going to get my car tinted with Huper Optik ceramic tint, in the mean time I'm exploring an alternative.

    Improvements catalog has a static cling vinyl that can be put on the windows and is removeable and reusable. That way if for any reason I have to remove it, I can put it back on. Sounds pretty good and is cheap enough to try as an alternative to permanent tinting.

    " Static-cling Window Film prevents fading of upholstery and carpets, reduces heat and glare.

    Just smooth it onto a window to cut down annoying sun glare, reduce radiant heat, and help prevent fading of interior materials. Smoke-colored vinyl sheet clings to glass like a magnet, with no adhesives, so it’s removable and reusable indefinitely, even on car windows. Allows 20% visible light transmission; blocks 95% of UV rays to prevent premature fading of furnishings. For single-pane windows only.24â€x84â€-long roll. "

    Window Film from Improvements.com

    Looks like one roll will do the back and rear passenger windows plus the little triangles. If it works well, I might try it in the house. I suspect it will be easier to manage than that window film you can buy at home improvement centers. That is such a pain in the house. I have to remove it from an entire window because it's turned purple and has bubbled.

    I figure, or $17.99 I'll give it a try.
     
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    I think I might be concerned how it stays on when you activate the power window. I use mine to remove condensation in the mornings and the rubber guides make pretty good squeeges, they might displace a static hold film.
     
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    Sounds GREAT for the rear hatch window which lets quite a bit more sunlight than the side windows.
     
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    The static cling material works great if you want a non-permanent tint.. I had a sunshade before, but you can't open the windows with the shade installed. I've actually got a couple of "patches" of static-cling tinted material that were sold as children's back seat glare blockers on the two rear windows of my Classic Prius because I often transport stuff in the back seat area and I wanted to reduce the direct sun as well as provide a degree of privacy, but didn't want or need the full blown tint solution..

    Anyways, the static-cling sheets work very well, and there's no problem opening/closing the windows at all- the material sticks tight and does not move. Small air bubbles are inevitable when installing, but they disappear after a few weeks- the squeegee action of the weatherstrip also helps to smooth out any air bubbles.

    IMO, thiis is definitely an alternatuve (to conventional tint), and one that you can install easily yourself with minimal fuss, unlike adhesive tint films..
     
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    Thanks. Nice to hear it works as well as I think it will. I'll only be putting it on the back two passenger windows, the triangles and the rear hatch window. If It works well I might even skip the tint.
     
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    No more shades! I bought a complete set of the Heatshields, paid big bucks for them and they are awful! The rear window doesn't even stick because of the lousy suction cups. And the front one is too big and bulky to manhandle into place every time I park. I broke the screw that holds the suction cup on one of the rear triangles. Only used the thing twice and already broken. They are just too inconvenient. I keep them rolled up in the cargo area in case I should ever be parked all day somewhere in the sun. Other than that....I have a pair of those collapsible shades for the front that have the wire around the edge. I'll put the film in the rear hatch area and the two rear passenger windows and the triangles. For the front I'll use a roll up shade. I also have a smaller wire-edged, collapsible shade with a suction cup in the middle for the side windows.

    But no more shades! If I don't use those Heatshields for a year....the entire set is going on eBay. Waste of money.
     
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    It's applied to the inside window. You cut the bottom so it's 1/4" to 1/2" longer. You spray the window with cleaner and then apply it and squeegee all of the water out. You tuck the bottom extra bit inside the rubber gasket so that after the film dries from the application the window can roll up and down without it peeling off. I don't roll the rear windows down that often anyway. I have no kids and don't carry passengers.
     
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    Let us know what you think after you have applied it.
     
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    Yeah but that's the same rear sunshade that's on our Camry (came standard). It's not the types you put on, you just roll and clip into place.
     
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    My understanding of the physics behind tints and films is awfully basic, and hopefully people will pitch in. I think though, that this framework may help you shop and make a best choice:

    I think of sunlight in 3 spectrums

    UV
    visible
    infra-red

    UV is already blocked by the windows we have. Additional blocking isn't worth it.
    infra-red is *heat*, and the more you can repel, the better.
    visible certainly affects how you subjectively feel in the car, but I cannot quantify how much. Driving at night is much more comfortable than mid-day at the same temperatue, but is that all due to less visible light, or is there less infra-red also ??

    The film OP is considering decreases visible to 20%, and infra-red an uncertain amount -- probably not a lot, or the ad would mention it. So I tend to think energy requirements to cool to the same cabin termperature may not change a whole lot, but *perhaps* the same temperature will feel more tolerable ?

    A possible downside to consider is night driving, where the visible light - such as it is - is welcome.

    I googled self-adhesive films, and came up with quite a few choices. One that caught my eye is a metallic based film, with 30% infra-red reflection:
    http://www.powerhousetv.com/stellent2/grou..._bu_000524.hcsp

    Insight or opinions ?
     
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    You need to include trojanhorse visible light. It hits the black & objects and converts into infra-heat. You shove enough energy at something, and it'll turn into heat i.e. brakes.

    And, we got a lot of pseudo-black plastic inside too.
     
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    infrared light consists of about 53% of the solar heat.
     
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    Has anybody had V-Kool 70 applied? Everything I've read indicates that it is a superior product to Huber Optic when it comes to passing visible light and rejecting IR. It also appears a bit more expensive.

    I'm not thrilled with the "tint" effect of Huber and other films. I'm specifically interested in what effect V-Kool might have had on cell phone reception. I don't have a NAV system so its not an issue.
     
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    Doesn't the Prius have a rear defogger on the rear hatch window that would prevent the use of this window film? I just ordered a Prius about a week ago - most likely a 3-month wait.
     
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    I don't care about the rear window. Just the side windows.
     
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    Here's an update.

    First...one roll will do all of the back windows. I used the Heatshields as a pattern to cut the vinyl before installing. Cut the rear hatch window first, then the two side rear passenger windows. Cut the passenger windows with an extra 1/4" - 1/2" excess on the bottom to tuck into the inside of the door so vinyl won't peel off when you raise and lower windows. With what's left you can cut out the two triangles.

    Clean your windows with Windex or another cleaner. Then spray with Windex, position vinyl and squeegee the excess water off.

    It dries in a few hours and eventually any little bubbles or water will cure.

    You can peel the vinyl off and REUSE IT.

    It seems to work better than nothing at all. Whether it cuts the heat as much as HuperOptik, Llumar or FormulaOne or Formula1...I doubt it. Also...the clarity is definately NOT up to that of film.

    However....it costs about $20 and you get what you pay for. I'm happy enough with it to put off installing ceramic tint simply because I can't afford the $500 or so it will cost. This will due me fine in the mean time.

    BTW don't know about the rear defroster as it's summer and I don't drive much at night anyway. But I really don't see it being a problem. Because of the angle of the hatch the clarity of the back window is like looking through an aquarium, but again.....for $20 I can live with it. I didn't do the lower window so that's fine.
     
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    According to the link, that window tint alternative has a light transmission of 20%. Is it legal in your state? (Here in NC, 35% is the minimum.)
     
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    No.

    But it will have to do until I can get the legal Huper Optic ceramic.

    If I get pulled over, it's a simply matter to just peel it off.
     
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    http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?...991&cat=2,43224

    Although sold as greenhouse window film, this is probably the same stuff in a larger roll, at a better price per sq. foot, and includes a knife and squeegee in the kit.. The roll is 36" x 168" and is supposed to block 98% UV and 51% of the heat. A single large roll is probably enough to do the whole car...

    As I alluded to before, the real benefit of this type of tint is that it adheres to the window by static instead of adhesive, which eliminates the common do-it-yourself problem of film sticking to itself, and the inability to re-try if you get a bubble or a crease.. Thus, unlike typical window films, which really do require professional installation for best results, with this stuff, you can definitely do a credible job yourself, and if you screw up, simply peel it off, and try again until you get it right..

    In terms of clarity, it is a little more hazy than regular film- this is due to it being a thicker vinyl film instead of the thin polyester that normal tint is composed of, but really, it's not that bad- I've seen some traditional films where the adhesive layer goes as hazy or worse after a couple of seasons..