LA Times: (Toyota) Crash reports tell of horror

All of the Toyota apologists are claiming that Toyota is innocent (or words to that effect). Yet Toyota refuses to provide a transparent model for its black box data. The world wonders why. And the controversy continues.

 

Toyota brought most of this upon themselves. They have known about sudden acceleration problems for years and have used many different means to avoid having to deal with it. Unfortunately for some of the toyota die-hards on here there is more to come and it will be very painful for you and for the dealers who are also faultless in this.
I think we will begin to see the long-term damage this has caused Toyota and Japan Inc when sales figures are released on Tuesday. Of course Toyota will not go away, but until they own up to the problem(electronics) and decide to fix all the cars (back to 2003) this will not go away. Every time there is a horrific crash in a Toyota that could have any chance of being the result of sudden acceleration, guess what the headline will be?

 

Toyota would seem to be the one with an interest in things being sorted out. Unless they really are guilty of something nasty.

Perhaps you should submit a proposal to Toyota?

 

Agreed. We need meaningful driver education in this country--akin to a high-performance driving school, where you might learn useful things like how to recover an out-of-control vehicle, how to put the car in neutral, etc. When I was getting my license, *every* one--to a one--who failed the test, did so because they were unable to parallel-park a car in under two minutes fewer than 18" from the curb. Sheesh. As if the roadsides were littered with bodies stacked like cordwood from those dying in tragic parallel-parking wrecks. Truth is, any moron over the age of 18 in most states can get a license passing a simple test. The 'drivers ed' offered to younger drivers isn't of much use. You get what you pay for, and you pay for what you get. We all do. But, hey, this might actually cost something, so we cannot have that, now, can we?
~T

 

I suppose that the head of the congressional inquiry of Toyota coming from Michigan has absolutly nothing to do with it at all!!!!

 

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If you want a vehicle recording system, they are available:

Many of us have added our own instrumentation to try and understand what is going on in our cars:

In this case, an accelerometer was used to document the ZVW30, brake pause. Others are using iPod/iPhones for a similar purpose. We're doing this because we want to know, not accident mitigation. However, built-in to every Garmin nuvi is a GPS record showing location and velocity.

There is a law that will soon require all cars to have a data recording system that can be used to analyze accident data. It is not yet in effect but many early systems are already coming online. Toyota has announced 100 readers will be commercially available in April. But it is a sword that cuts both ways and will hopefully provide engineering data so missing from the NHTSA accident reports.

Bob Wilson