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Problem unlocking and starting car. thought it was battery but.....

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Swamibob, Mar 14, 2010.

  1. Swamibob

    Swamibob Junior Member

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    This is the first bit of trouble I've had out of my 2006 prius. I do have the transponder option so I don't have to us the fob in the dash.
    Yesterday, when I tried to open the door it tried to unlock but couldn't, I heard the horn beeping very low (the alarm going off i guess) like an almost dead battery. I manually open the door and I can see that the lights are very dim. I hold down the brake and press the power button. The lights are still dim and the dash lights upfront are also much dimmer than normal. So I think it must be and issue with the 12v accessory battery. I push the power button again, wait a few seconds and turn it back on. This time it comes up with full brightness on the dome lights and the dash and the car runs and drives normal. I have driven it 4 more times and everything seems fine now. So, the question is, if it was the battery, why did it come back on like it was fully charged by just turning it off and back on again? What else can be going wrong to cause this and do you still think it is the battery? It seems weird to me that with it acting so dead and then coming back on at full power that it may be something else.

    Thanks all,
    Swami
     
  2. firepa63

    firepa63 Former Prius Owner

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    If the 12v battery is the original, it's time to replace it. Once it has been run down, you will probably have problems with it again before long.
     
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  3. Patrick Wong

    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

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    The 12V battery is close to dead. You were lucky that the car managed to start the second time you tried it.

    If you have access to a battery charger, try charging the battery at the 2A setting overnight. Or, leave the car READY for 8-10 hours. Do not underestimate the time needed to recharge a dead battery. If the battery doesn't hold a charge, time to replace it.

    Once the Prius becomes READY, the DC/DC converter produces 13.8V on the DC bus, so the 12V battery no longer is responsible for providing power. This is why the cabin lights came back to full brightness after the car started.
     
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  4. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Batteries will recover a bit when you let them sit. Unloading a failing battery for a few seconds and trying again will sometimes bring enough charge to the surface of the plates to let you start. Your battery is still bad and should be replaced.

    Tom
     
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  5. Swamibob

    Swamibob Junior Member

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    I found the post on how to go into maintenance mode. My battery is at 11.9v instead of 12.4-12.8 like it should be. Under load it dropped to 11.5-11.8. When put in ready mode it went to 14.2 so it looks like the battery is running low.

    I guess it was right on the edge of being able to get it to ready mode so the other battery could take over and let me start the car so turning it off and back on it made it to enough voltage that time to turn it on. I think my problem is I have only been driving the car for .25 miles a trip for the last year or so since I lost my job, and not every day.

    Do you think I should turn off the mode that allows me to unlock the doors by just grabbing the handles until I start driving it farther to keep from discharging the battery as quickly? Do you think if I go out of my way to make sure that I charge the battery more often (drive the car more and longer distances) that the battery will recover and last a while longer since I think it just slowly discharged due to lack of driving distance and not driving for multiple days? If I do replace the battery do you recommend getting the optima upgrade for the $161 or should I just stick with the oem battery?

    Thank you,
    Swami
     
  6. Patrick Wong

    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

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    Sorry to hear you are unemployed, that's certainly a no-fun issue to deal with.

    The habit of driving such short trips is not helping your 12V battery state of charge. It sounds like you don't have access to a battery charger.

    In that case you could try making the Prius READY, then leave the car alone for 8-10 hours to see if the battery will recharge. If you do this, park the car in a location where you don't have to worry about theft or engine exhaust gases injuring someone.

    I recently replaced my 12V battery on the 2004 with the correct battery purchased from my local Toyota dealer for ~$135, so that's my vote regarding what to buy. Good luck.
     
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