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Upgrading Nav DVD for my 2006 (Gen 5 NAV)

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by Dutch, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. Dutch

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    I've moved this reply which was a fork from a Gen III forum on Gen 6 NAV. The OP was informing folks that there is a torrent on ThePirateBay <dot> org of the Gen 5 NAV v9.1 upgrade disc. It's the one named Prius Nav Gen5 9_1 and the torrent number is 5388156.
    I burned a couple of coasters already with ImgBurn and the booktype set correctly to DVD-ROM. Just wondering if anyone else had success. There's been a lot of downloads on this torrent so I figured someone here would have tried it as well.
     
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    I have it downloaded but I'm not going to try it just yet. I never could get a working copy of 7.1 to work so I'm waiting to see if someone else get it working first. I have the media and I have the right burner because I've made copies of 6.1 just fine.

    I plan on buying 10.1 when it comes out this year so I will be able to experiment with an original disk and report back.
     
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    Thanks, TF. I'm really tired of making coasters at $3 a pop and the waste. I think it is all about the Loading.kwi - if it's for the Camry or some other model it won't load the maps properly. I really don't think it's about the disc or burning for folks like us that have the right gear and experience. Hopefully some others will let us know of their success or failure.
     
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    I have a v9.1 nav disc, toyota original equipment #86271-53024, 464210-1380, U34, data ver .09.1, I bought for my 2006 Prius but I no longer need it. I traded the 2006 in on a 2010 level 3 w/ nav and it came with v9.1. I put the original disc back in the 2006 before I took it to dealer. I could sell the v9.1 at a nice discount? Make me an offer via PM, or email to jack dot betz at gmail dot com. I guess I will EBay it if no one on board wants it. I know this works as I used it for about a month in the 2006 Prius.
     
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    I'm interested in your 9.1 disc, I sent you a PM. Thanks...
     
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    My system is a NAV Gen 5 in a 2006 Prius package 7.

    I'm using ImgBurn to burn DVDs from ISO files. In the case of my functioning original disc, v5.1, ImgBurn was used to create the ISO file.

    The only discs I've tried so far are Memorex DVD+R DL. Some have reported success with these discs and ImgBurn. There are a few posters who believe Verbatim discs are better. One poster swears by Verbatim DL DVD 8X in the jewel cases. The model number of these discs are 95311.

    My Pioneer DVR-215DBK DVD/CD Writer (acquired 2008) supports 20X write speed on DVD-R/+R media, and 10x speed on DVD-R/+R dual/double layer media. In dual-layer format, a single DVD will hold 8.5 GB of data. This SATA-interface drive gives you reliable writing with a 2 MB buffer, buffer under-run protection, and automatic adjustment of write speed according to media type to ensure that you're burning useable media, not coasters.

    The Pioneer is running the latest firmware, v1.22; and is patched using MediaCodeSpeedEdit tool for DVD-Writers and DVRFlash to enable DVD-ROM booktype. After burning DVDs, booktype is correctly set to DVD-ROM, verified by ImgBurn and DVD Identifier.

    My results? I've tried to burn versions v9.1, v8.1, and v5.1. Versions 9.1 and 8.1 were downloaded ISO files. Version 5.1 is my original disc acquired with the car. Multiple 9.1 versions attempted several times each have produced coasters. The v8.1 won't load but if I put it in without power cycling, the system will use its data and correctly identifies it as v8.1. I misspoke the other day about my own v5.1, the one copy I created is a coaster. All the DVDs are readable in the computer disc drive and show no errors.

    I wonder if the Toyota DVD drives will only reliably accept commercially burned DVDs. Perhaps consumer grade DVD writers don't create deep enough pits to be consistently read in the unit. If true, this is an interesting (and effective) means of copy protection, particularly in this case where they don't care if the disc can be read anywhere else but their dedicated unit.

    Anybody have access to a commercial DVD burner?
     
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    I am interested sent you a PM, hopefully you still have it.
     
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    An interesting question came up in a PM with another PriusChatter --- of the folks here on PriusChat, who has purchased a NAV update DVD on eBay and did it work for you? If you did have success, it would be nice to know the vendor.

    P.S. I believe the jackbetz DVD is sold.
     
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    I've tried multiple times to burn 9.1 with no luck. Used WinXP/Win7/Nero/ImgBurn with booktype set to DVD-ROM on my Plextor PX-716UF, Samsung SH-203N, Samsung slim burner (forget the model), and a couple of Matshita's on my Macs (can't set booktype on these though.) None of them work in my 2006 Prius (even though they've been bit by bit verified as a perfect copy.)

    I've tried both Verbatim DVD+/-R DL discs as well (I should be buying stock in Verbatim.) Maybe I should try Memorex, but I doubt it will make a difference honestly. I've even tried burning at 1x-4x speeds without a single difference in reading it (all fail immediately when inserting the disc.)

    I've also burned 10 different copies of the 8.1 and 5.1 revisions using different configurations with the same set of drives above without any luck either. The only thing the system will do is upgrade to the newer firmware during the insert of the 8.1/9.1 dvd, but fails to read the map data immediately after the upgrade.

    I've come to believe some Navigation laser assemblies will work with consumer grade DVD-R's and some just won't (just like the early Sony DVD players where they won't read burned discs no matter what.) I suspect this is intentional to prevent copying even if it's for a legitimate purpose of backing up your original DVD.

    With all the time I've invested and the countless coasters ($2-3 a piece) that I've burned it would have been easier to buy a backup copy and bite the bullet on the cost. To tell you the truth, I'd probably be ahead right now! :)
     
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    I would definitely like to know what is the right burner? I've tried 5 different ones and none of them seem to work.
     
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    I copied the 9.1 for my 2010 and it works fine. I have burned about 5 different copies of the 9.1 for the gen 5 and cant get it to work. I tried different media and two different burners. The 7.1 copied i made for my gen 5 is working fine. Im starting to think the torrent file is no good.

    The gen 5 disk were tested in my 2006 Prius
     
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    That makes two of us.

    I'm going to be getting an original 9.1 Gen5 disc in the next couple of weeks. Once I do, I'm going to try to make a backup copy of. I'll post something here if it works or not.

    Also, what was the burner and media you used to make the 7.1 copy? I'm trying to find a known good configuration and go from there. Thanks.
     
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    All my 7.1 copies were done in different burners. The only similar thing was the media. Verbatim DVD-R DL. Extremely hard media to find.
     
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    Okay - thanks. I still have 5 Verbatim DVD-R DL's left. I'll give those a shot when the 9.1 disc arrives.
     
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    I take my prior comment back. I just realized that I was doing this in my 2005 prius(gen 4). I've never had any media work on my 2006 prius(gen 5).

    Has anyone ever made a good copy for gen 5??
     
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    I found some of the magic Verbatim +R DL DVD 8X 95311 in the jewel case at MicroCenter. Burned a v9.1 iso yesterday that people had reported success with and made another coaster. It behaves as others have reported. The OS apparently updates to v9.1 because the nag screen is replaced by the time delay screen, but the map data isn't recognized.

    As more of us report in I believe strongly the DVD player is at fault, requiring industrially stamped DVDs to reliably load.

    Ovni, I thought we had to use +R as -R can't be set to booktype DVD-ROM as required?
     
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    After producing many coasters with all the various media brands referenced in this and other threads, I've also come to the conclusion that something about the gen5 prius nav dvd drive can't read burned media (only stamped). So now I've started on plan B which is to look into swapping out the drive itself. Has anyone pulled it apart to verify if it is something proprietary? If not that could be a simple solution. If it is I wonder if swapping in a drive from a different model Toyota or Lexus that have been verified to handle burned media might work.
     
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    I agree, finding a replacement drive would be great - sounds like a business opportunity! If I find the time, I'll pull it and have a look. I wonder if it uses proprietary connectors...
     
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    I just did a search on eBay and found someone selling new Denso Toyota navigation DVD drives for $98 plus $8 shipping. I have a question in to the seller but unless they say it absolutely won't work I'll probably get one to try out.
     
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    So, I just bought an '06 with the #8 options but it didn't come with a navigation CD. I'm assuming that it has 5.1. My question is, should I buy a 5.1 CD or can I just go from what I have to the latest version. From what I hear, the first owner was an older gentleman and seemed to take extremely good car of the car. I'm assuming he didn't upgrade or even used the nav for that matter. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Dave