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Bought Prius 2010, questions

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by mwok86, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. mwok86

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    I just bought the Prius 2010 yesterday.

    1) The accelerator and brake pedal seems hard to push like it takes more pressure. I'm guessing this is because it is new? When I test drove the other priuses, it did not take as much pressure (but those had at least 30-45 miles new). I just can't get myself to push hard on the accelerator pedal cause it's brand new.

    2) When going up a hill, it was struggling to keep 33mph....but that maybe me not pressing the accelerator due to it being a new car etc etc.

    3) There is EV, ECO, and PWR mode. Which mode should I be using for driving in the beltway and which mode for bumper to bumper traffic (with a stretches of freeway).

    4) I got the Trim III without nav for 22.8K, good price?

    5) There is a "B" gear mode...the Sales rep said that you should use it if you're going up a hill. I don't have many hills on the work commute so I assume I don't need to use it.

    6) Last time I checked, I had about 75% battery charge (it was something like 50% when I took it from the dealership)...will it be 100% in a couple of days?

    7) The sales rep recommended to get a paint seal...I will probably get it today sinces it is sunny outside. He said that it will protect against rusting caused by salt and snow.

    Toyota was selling a 4 year no maintenance plan ($430) and a 7 year bumper to bumper warranty ($1250). The sales rep said I did not have to pay for anything for the next 4 years (even the consumables like brakepads are free).
     
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    I just bought the Prius 2010 yesterday.

    1) The accelerator and brake pedal seems hard to push like it takes more pressure. I'm guessing this is because it is new? When I test drove the other priuses, it did not take as much pressure (but those had at least 30-45 miles new). I just can't get myself to push hard on the accelerator pedal cause it's brand new.

    2) When going up a hill, it was struggling to keep 33mph....but that maybe me not pressing the accelerator due to it being a new car etc etc.

    3) There is EV, ECO, and PWR mode. Which mode should I be using for driving in the beltway and which mode for bumper to bumper traffic (with a stretches of freeway).

    4) I got the Trim III without nav for 22.8K, good price?

    5) There is a "B" gear mode...the Sales rep said that you should use it if you're going up a hill. I don't have many hills on the work commute so I assume I don't need to use it.

    6) Last time I checked, I had about 75% battery charge (it was something like 50% when I took it from the dealership)...will it be 100% in a couple of days?

    7) The sales rep recommended to get a paint seal...I will probably get it today sinces it is sunny outside. He said that it will protect against rusting caused by salt and snow.

    8) How do I turn on the accessory mode to listen to the radio? The manual said to press the power button WITHOUT pressing the brake pedal? To turn it off, I just press the power button again right?

    Toyota was selling a 4 year no maintenance plan ($430) and a 7 year bumper to bumper warranty ($1250). The sales rep said I did not have to pay for anything for the next 4 years (even the consumables like brakepads are free).
     
  3. Patrick Wong

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    Responses to a few of your Qs:

    5) B is the logical equivalent of shifting into low gear. You really don't need to use B unless you are descending a steep hill and your traction battery SOC gauge is full, or if you feel that you need help to control the downward speed of the car by increasing engine drag. Use of B will result in worsened mpg compared to D.

    6) Don't worry about the traction battery SOC gauge readings, just drive the car. Typically you will not see the gauge read full unless you are descending a long mountain road. As your car ages you may see greater fluctuations in gauge readings as the battery capacity diminishes, thus it is easier to drain and charge the battery.

    7) I would be skeptical of the benefit provided by aftermarket products applied on the paint, other than its effectiveness in draining your bank account.

    Regarding warranty coverage, if you feel you need to purchase a Toyota extended warranty there are less costly alternatives that you can research on this forum. You are eligible to buy a Toyota extended warranty at any point prior to your 3 year / 36K mile warranty expiring, so what is the benefit to do that now?

    Regarding a prepaid maintenance plan, $430 sounds like a lot to pay for four years of oil changes and a 30K mile inspection. I'd suggest you save that money.
     
  4. bisco

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    grab your favorite beverage and some snacks, find a comfy chair and read the owners manual cover to cover. take copious notes and come back with unanswered questions. ignore everything the dealer/salesman told you. drive your new prius like any other car and enjoy the most unique car in the world.;)
     
  5. Smirv

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    1) The accelerator pedal could be due to what mode you are in. Eco mode makes the accelerator really soft. All the modes basically play with the sensitivity of the gas pedal and how hard the fan blows. From least sensitive up you have Eco, Normal, Power.

    2) The prius should have no problem going up the hill, I think that one is just you.;) Trying pushing harder or changing the mode.

    3) I personally have gotten used to staying on Eco mode no matter where I'm at. Its a matter of preference. How sensitive do you want the gas pedal? I would say play around with it and make that descision on your own.

    4) I got the III as well. Was that price including Doc, Liscense, Destination? I got my III for 22750 with all that included a couple weeks ago.

    5) That "B" mode is engine braking. That really is only for going down very steep hills. I personally dont mess with it. Its not as effecient as using the brakes.

    6) Depends how you drive. http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii...max-mpg-driving-techniques-youtube-video.html

    7) All that extra stuff from the dealer is questionable. You really dont need it. The prius gets oil change every 10000 so I dont know if $430 is worth it. The extended warranty is like buying insurance. Ill just say its a well built car.
     
  6. mwok86

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    1) So the ECO mode takes less pressure to push the accelerator . Can I switch between ECO, EV, and PWR mode constantly without damaging/stressing the components?

    4) Yes, it includes doc, license, and dest.

    7) I drive on rough roads, so by year 3-4, struts/shocks/brakes will need to be replaced (even though I drive less than 7K miles a year). All of this is free due to the maintenance plan.
     
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    SMIRV gave you all the correct answers, but to clarify.
    1. ECO mode takes MORE pressure to push on the gas pedal, I guess the thinking is you won't push so hard, hence better mpg's.
    2. You can put all the paint sealant, wax, whatever you want to call it but to really prevent rust you still gotta spray the underneath of the car with fresh water.
     
  8. Smirv

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    Yes you can switch between the diff. modes without damaging components. Also dont forget there is normal mode which is when no mode is selected.

    Id say that is a good price, especially since they will be going up this summer when the gas does. If you go to www.kbb.com you can see what the prices are for that car and what consumers are paying. 22800 is almost invoice (minus the dealer holdback).

    Just keep in mind all that extra stuff from the dealer makes the car more expensive and you probably wont get that money back out of it. It has a really good paint job and with proper maintence you really dont need the paint sealer.
     
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    Only use "B" when going down long slopes such as a really long hill or descending mountainous terrain. "B" is not good for normal braking to stops as it will not regen the batteries as much. The accessory mode is one tap of the power button without pressing on the brake. The light in the button should be orange. Congrats on a good purchase!
    I stay in normal mode now as we need good AC here in Phoenix. I've read that ECO mode cuts back on fan performance. That's a trade-off I'm willing to make.
    You will probably observe other drivers speeding around you as you try to achieve maximum MPG. This is also normal...I stay to the right as much as possible now.
    Oh yes, one more tip: If they will fit and you don't need the back seats very often, set them flat with the headrests in their normal upright position (if they will fit). I found out that extending the headrests and tipping them down before laying the seats flat causes rattles back there. With the back seats down, you will get better visibility out of the rear windows.
     
  10. Tideland Prius

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    1. Are you in ECO Mode?

    2. Are you in ECO Mode?

    3. Really up to you. I would recommend starting out in normal mode (no buttons pressed) and get a feel for the car. After that, you can start experimenting

    4. No idea, I'm not in the US

    5. Can't believe misinformation is still being passed around. B gear is the equivalent of engine braking.

    6. It'll never be 100% unless you go down a hill. The real battery SOC is actually between 40-80% (IOW, 8 bars on the battery meter is actually only 80% SOC). The computer will keep it at 60% or roughly 6 bars. The top two bars will almost always been free (gotta leave some space for regenerative braking or engine warm-up).

    In short, don't worry about the battery level

    7. Sounds like the usual dealership add ons. (same thing was thrown to me and my friends when we bought Toyotas... you just put gas and drive. blah blah blah).
     
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    Very few Priuses will need brake pads within 4 years, so this portion of the plan is worth very little.

    It seems that the great majority of Priuses are getting 100k miles on the original pads, and many are going far beyond that. So those of us who can get about 100k miles on brake pads on non-hybrids are unlikely to ever need new Prius pads, unless the rotors get too rusty from lack of use.
     
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    im just gonna add a question here instead of creating my own since it's a simple one

    how far can you drive turned-on prius without the key? i often leave my car on and walk to ATM, and prius bleeps for not detecting key. i wonder if someone hijacks it without key, how far will it go?
     
  13. Rebound

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    Congrats, and welcome to the club! You'll learn a lot here. The maintenance plan is definitely a rip-off, when you consider that Toyota now recommends oil changes at 10,000 mile intervals! Don't pay $400+ for 3 oil changes and a few basic inspections.

    If you want the extended warranty, these warranties can be sold by any Toyota dealer, and there's at least one here who will quote you a much better price. I considered one, but I drive very gently and my cars rarely need repairs before 100,000 miles.
     
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    It will go until they shut it off. Once started the Prius with smart key doesn't need the key to be driven once running only to start. This is the way its designed because if your smart key battery died when you were driving down the freeway simulating a missing smart key fob and the car stopped instantly you would not be happy.
     
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    Welcome to the upgrade!

    I notice your profile still says 2006, perhaps an edit is due? <GRINS>

    Also, USA is a little broad. Perhaps a state or region to kinda give us an idea of your climate challenges.

    As a suggestion, just run "normal" and it will behave pretty much as your 2006. But "PWR" is nice too. Your car, enjoy! <GRINS>

    My only suggestion is to be 'soft' on the accelerator for the first 1/2 mile ... shifting to "N" is perfectly safe during the warm-up period. But once the engine stops by itself at a light or stop, just drive the car normal.

    One slight suggestion, don't accelerate up a hill. Get your speed at the base and then hold it to the crest ... if you have any hills. Otherwise, this is an awesome car as you will no doubt soon discover.

    Bob Wilson
     
  16. Paradox

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    I merged 2 of the same threads the OP started yesterday into this one. To the OP, no need to post the same question twice in two threads, Thanks.
     
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    The prius is extremely slow from a red light stop to go and hill climbing (can hardly maintain 40mph) on eco mode. I think it was the same on the normal mode. I don't mind but the other drivers behind me would tail gate me. I will be driving in rush hour traffic where lots of people tail gate as soon as the light turns green.

    I'm thinking about getting a sticker to put on the bumper that tells them to back off. Something like "Are you as close to Jesus as you are to my bumper", "If you can read this, you are probably speeding", "If you can read this, you are driving too close". Do you know where I can buy these stickers (or custom) where it won't leave a gum residue (probably weather resistant too)?
     
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    I have no idea of what Prius you are driving..Just step on the gas and it will go you don't need a bumper sticker.
     
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    To get enough "pickup speed" from a red to green traffic light, I need to press the acceleration pedal that it will engage the gas engine for a couple of seconds till I pick up speed and then I will back off acceleration. Due to bumper to bumper traffic, this will be done 100s of times during the commute.....is this okay for longevity of the gas engine (turning on and off) and the battery?
     
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    don't get the paint sealant


    it's a total waste of money


    they are probably selling you a "teflon" wax job.


    i had it done from a dealer at a deep discount.

    it just a wax job and doesn't really protect much.

    it won't stop the the swirl marks and you have to still wax the car



    total rip-off!!!!!